Romulan Bird of Prey model: Was it lost or was it broken?
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That's what I've heard, but it doesn't mean its the real reason.
That's what I've heard, but it doesn't mean its the real reason.
Re: Romulan Bird of Prey model: Was it lost or was it broken
They'd invested some money into finally getting a Klingon vessel made that wasn't a mere blob of light on a viewscreen, but suddenly a script required a Romulan vessel and the old Romulan ship could not be located, so they added a line about Romulans using Klingon vessels and gave the new model an earlier debut.
They'd invested some money into finally getting a Klingon vessel made that wasn't a mere blob of light on a viewscreen, but suddenly a script required a Romulan vessel and the old Romulan ship could not be located, so they added a line about Romulans using Klingon vessels and gave the new model an earlier debut.
Re: Romulan Bird of Prey model: Was it lost or was it broken
It was NEVER called a Warbird. The word "Warbird" never entered Trek vocabulary until Next Gen when the D'Deridex made its first appearance. The term "Bird of Prey", as someone else mentioned, was used by Lt. Styles to describe the paint scheme on the ship's hull. How this "Warbird" nonsense got projected back into TOS I'll never know, but it irritates me every time I see it.
It was NEVER called a Warbird. The word "Warbird" never entered Trek vocabulary until Next Gen when the D'Deridex made its first appearance. The term "Bird of Prey", as someone else mentioned, was used by Lt. Styles to describe the paint scheme on the ship's hull. How this "Warbird" nonsense got projected back into TOS I'll never know, but it irritates me every time I see it.
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^^^ Makes sense. I haven't played SFB in years - maybe some gaming guru can verify that. It is very possible. It may have even come from a FASA design, too. Anyone know for sure?
^^^ Makes sense. I haven't played SFB in years - maybe some gaming guru can verify that. It is very possible. It may have even come from a FASA design, too. Anyone know for sure?
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Re: Romulan Bird of Prey model: Was it lost or was it broken
"Warbird" was used SOMEWHERE prior to TNG and prior to 1980, because I used it in a very bad piece of fiction written DURING 1980. Just to make sure I wasn't imagining it, I dug out a file with about 75 handwritten (handwritten? yeah, I wrote it while at work so I didn't have access to a typewriter) pages, and sure enough there is specific and repeated reference to a Romulan ship as a 'warbird.' That's roughly 90 months before TNG even aired.
This suggests to me that either a Bantam novel or a very early Pocket novel used 'warbird' as a reference, or perhaps some fanfiction. I was never into roleplaying games so I don't know about FASA or that stuff.
I am reasonably sure I did not make 'warbird' up for my project, especially since I most definitely knew the 'bird of prey' reference back then (which explains why I was so pissed off in SFS about the klingons suddenly having something called by that name.)
"Warbird" was used SOMEWHERE prior to TNG and prior to 1980, because I used it in a very bad piece of fiction written DURING 1980. Just to make sure I wasn't imagining it, I dug out a file with about 75 handwritten (handwritten? yeah, I wrote it while at work so I didn't have access to a typewriter) pages, and sure enough there is specific and repeated reference to a Romulan ship as a 'warbird.' That's roughly 90 months before TNG even aired.
This suggests to me that either a Bantam novel or a very early Pocket novel used 'warbird' as a reference, or perhaps some fanfiction. I was never into roleplaying games so I don't know about FASA or that stuff.
I am reasonably sure I did not make 'warbird' up for my project, especially since I most definitely knew the 'bird of prey' reference back then (which explains why I was so pissed off in SFS about the klingons suddenly having something called by that name.)
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As stated above in the FASA board game Star Fleet Battles (Of which I still have one of the original versions before it balloned into 'Fleet Carrier Wars'
), the Warbird was used to describe the Romulan BOP with only Impulse engines; and War Eagle described the same BOP with Warp engines tacked on.
That's probably where the phrase/description started.
As stated above in the FASA board game Star Fleet Battles (Of which I still have one of the original versions before it balloned into 'Fleet Carrier Wars'
), the Warbird was used to describe the Romulan BOP with only Impulse engines; and War Eagle described the same BOP with Warp engines tacked on.That's probably where the phrase/description started.
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