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Review of the 11th First Episode

Would you still be saying that if I was an RTD fan the way most of my critics here are?
USS Bones, as lots and lots of people have told you already, it's your endless stream of negativity, condescension and bitterness that makes people crazy. You're not singled out because of your opinions, you're singled out because people find you annoying. There is no conspiracy at work here. We don't have a special handshake. We've all come to the same conclusion on our own. I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings, but maybe, maybe there something there that is worth thinking about.

PM me if you want to talk about it further because I think the thread has been derailed enough already.

Aw but I liked the special handshake :(

And Bones, people who've been on this forum a lot longer than you will probably fill you in on the fact that I've never been RTD's biggest fan. The guy has grown on me, I grant you that (and Children of Earth really ratcheted him up in my opinion) but I still find him as annoying and frustrating as he is brilliant. I've often said he's half hack half genius and I still hold to that.
 
i think RTD gets more flack than he deserves, but i would certainly say he's not perfect (hello VOTD).

unremitting negativitity gets boring after a while and you just stop listening.
 
Would you still be saying that if I was an RTD fan the way most of my critics here are?
USS Bones, as lots and lots of people have told you already, it's your endless stream of negativity, condescension and bitterness that makes people crazy. You're not singled out because of your opinions, you're singled out because people find you annoying. There is no conspiracy at work here. We don't have a special handshake. We've all come to the same conclusion on our own. I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings, but maybe, maybe there something there that is worth thinking about.

PM me if you want to talk about it further because I think the thread has been derailed enough already.

Aw but I liked the special handshake :(

And Bones, people who've been on this forum a lot longer than you will probably fill you in on the fact that I've never been RTD's biggest fan. The guy has grown on me, I grant you that (and Children of Earth really ratcheted him up in my opinion) but I still find him as annoying and frustrating as he is brilliant. I've often said he's half hack half genius and I still hold to that.

Exactly my opinion, as well. Ask Sci. He knows my thoughts about RTD, more than most. I'm very glad to see the backside of his era. However, no matter how much he frustrated me with his silly shit, there's an overriding, primary impetus here that will withstand ninety-nine-percent of anything RTD has ever done with the show, and that is this:

I love Doctor Who.

I've endured JNT's best and worst. I've gone through the wonderful Hinchcliffe and Adams eras, and also endured scripts by Pip and Jane Baker (the Classic era equivalent of combining Helen Raynor with Fear Her). I've loved Sarah, lusted after Leela, and wanted to hook up with Ace. I laughed out loud when Colin tried to strangle Peri, said a tearful goodbye to Peter as he questioned, "Is this death?", and mentally high-fived Tom when stated the immortal line "What a wonderful butler, he's so violent!"

And a four-year run of shows that, while pretty eye-rolling silly in a lot of places, still had a sincere and grandiose sense of truly EPIC for something like Doctor Who.....hell, that's just a blip on the radar of Who's lifetime.

So, hating on RTD and disliking his stuff? Fine, get a thread together about it and I will be one of your largest contributors. But, in the end, there's still a reason I come to this board, and watch the show. I love it. And I think that's the overall public opinion and unspoken rule of posting on a Doctor Who board. You can hate it to its core (The Doctor's Daughter, the only episode of Who I have never, and will never, finish) but in the end, it's still "family". Nitpicking it ad nauseum becomes exhausting after awhile, because it will no more change the show itself than change the people you are complaining to.

All of that said, I love your review thread and I hope you will get your lazy ass back into gear and review more episodes... :p :techman:
 
Nitpicking it ad nauseum becomes exhausting after awhile, because it will no more change the show itself than change the people you are complaining to.
*downs whiskey and loads revolver*
All of that said, I love your review thread and I hope you will get your lazy ass back into gear and review more episodes... :p :techman:
It's on my to do list, but nitpicking it ad nauseum becomes exhausting after a while.
 
It's on my to do list, but nitpicking it ad nauseum becomes exhausting after a while.

Thats normally when normal people pack in watching something you dislike :p I seen your comments are a little nicer for Moffat era so far so I assume your sticking to watching that ? no one is forcing you to watch RTD's era.
 
Well, I thought this was a great episode. Any anxiety about the new Doctor was quickly washed away-- the new guy is pretty good. And the new Companion is amazing (and quite pretty). What a heartbreaking backstory; twelve years, the Raggedy Doctor, all the drawings and making her boyfriend dress up as him (a classic funny-but-touching moment). I missed the last couple of minutes because my tape ran out, so I didn't see how their conversation ended or get a look at the new TARDIS, but I'll catch that tonight.

But, for me, the most amazing part of the episode was that Doctor Who stole my idea. For shame, Doctor Who, for shame.
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Finally saw it, and was surprised how much I liked Matt Smith. No, he will never be Tennant, and yes he looks a bit goofy, but so far his appearance suits the new tone.

The one thing I'm not sure about is the new companion - yet another woman who leaves a mundane boyfriend behind, who will no doubt compare unfavorably with the Doctor - and with an impending wedding, too. It's all a bit too familiar, but it's still early, maybe she will grow on me.
 
Sorry, I disagree with most of you. I think Smith has hit the nail on the head. I've been away from Doctor Who since Davidson (because he was so disappointing and Colin Baker even more so) and this kid is it.

He's got the confidence of Pertwee, the wackiness of Troughton and the intelligence of TBaker. This is the only guy I have seen in the past, what, almost 20 years that I can call truly call Doctor.

Congrats to Matt and his team!!!
 
From an Australian perspective, here's a review from The Age -

Review: Doctor Who | Matt Smith
Moffat is a fan of old-school Doctor Who and it shows. The non-human elements of the episode, such as an enormous eyeball and a scary worm with huge fangs, aren't particularly sophisticated ideas from a production perspective but they work brilliantly.
They emphasise why Doctor Who worked in the 1960s and still works today: the most terrifying menaces are not writ large on the screen but hide in the shadows and in the periphery of our vision.
The real surprise is the manner in which Matt Smith owns the role completely from the very first frame. Any fear there might be teething problems or some lingering affection for his predecessor, David Tennant, whom many consider the best actor to inhabit the role in four decades, failed to materialise.
The verdict? Great, big, wallopy, timey-wimey brilliant.


He gives it 4 out of 5 stars.
 
I saw the episode on Space over the weekend.


For me, the backstory for Amelia really made me think of The Girl in the Fireplace - or perhaps as an echo of the road not taken, in terms of Ten leaving Madame de Pompadour in her life-to-be-lead, rather than showing her more than the glimpse of other worlds she was given.


Plus, I really enjoyed the scene showing the ten previous Doctors, and how the Doctor can be without his TARDIS and his sonic screwdriver, and still shape the fate of worlds.


Roll on the rest of the season!
 
For me, the backstory for Amelia really made me think of The Girl in the Fireplace - or perhaps as an echo of the road not taken, in terms of Ten leaving Madame de Pompadour in her life-to-be-lead, rather than showing her more than the glimpse of other worlds she was given.

Yep.
 
Matt Smith is far far too white to say "Who da man"


Ummmmmm.... No, not really. According to my "urban" dictionary, no one owns it. He may be a little too Brit!

Well, I'm sure it's still odd.

I recall years ago hearing the very white Cordelia , portrayed by Charisma Carpenter say in a very Valley Girl manner(in an early Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode), "Are you tripping?"

True, no one owns these little sayings, but certain terms do start out as 'black' slang, then gets picked up by non-blacks...
 
Matt Smith is far far too white to say "Who da man"


Ummmmmm.... No, not really. According to my "urban" dictionary, no one owns it. He may be a little too Brit!

Well, I'm sure it's still odd.

I recall years ago hearing the very white Cordelia , portrayed by Charisma Carpenter say in a very Valley Girl manner(in an early Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode), "Are you tripping?"

True, no one owns these little sayings, but certain terms do start out as 'black' slang, then gets picked up by non-blacks...

And vice versa. Language will always be fluid, as it should be. :)

Put another way, one man's meat is another man's poison.
 
"Are you tripping?" and variations was popular slang back in the 60s to the mid 70s. It wasn't just associated with Blacks. Still odd for Cordelia to say, though, because it wasn't fashionable.
 
"Are you tripping?" and variations was popular slang back in the 60s to the mid 70s. It wasn't just associated with Blacks. Still odd for Cordelia to say, though, because it wasn't fashionable.

Well, I guess it depends on where one grew up....and what one was exposed to.

Ummmmmm.... No, not really. According to my "urban" dictionary, no one owns it. He may be a little too Brit!

Well, I'm sure it's still odd.

I recall years ago hearing the very white Cordelia , portrayed by Charisma Carpenter say in a very Valley Girl manner(in an early Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode), "Are you tripping?"

True, no one owns these little sayings, but certain terms do start out as 'black' slang, then gets picked up by non-blacks...

And vice versa. Language will always be fluid, as it should be. :)

Put another way, one man's meat is another man's poison.

Very true....

Some terms I thought started out in the 70s, actually started out in the 20s. (Although, I forget those words at the moment, as I'm typing this very early in the morning).:lol:
 
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Sorry, I disagree with most of you. I think Smith has hit the nail on the head. I've been away from Doctor Who since Davidson (because he was so disappointing and Colin Baker even more so) and this kid is it.

He's got the confidence of Pertwee, the wackiness of Troughton and the intelligence of TBaker. This is the only guy I have seen in the past, what, almost 20 years that I can call truly call Doctor.

Congrats to Matt and his team!!!

Ditto on both counts! Peter Davison was the last doctor I really enjoyed watching. I saw some of Christopher Eccleston and some of David Tennant but I never really got into the series with either of them, but I love Matt Smith in the first episode.
 
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