Replicator Limits and Thresholds?

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  1. AsianPotato

    AsianPotato Cadet Newbie

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    Replicators cannot create fatal poisons and objects of high complexities. However, can weapons be mass produced using Replicators?
     
  2. Crazy Eddie

    Crazy Eddie Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Probably not.
     
  3. retroenzo

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    I suspect that it may be able to replicate individual components or ingredients separately but at what point will it stop replicating?
     
  4. Tenacity

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    If the replicator can make certain medications, then it should be able to produce many poisons. There could be programming restrictions, but the replicator mech itself could do the deed.
    Don't see why not, as long as the replicator has power and materials.
     
  5. Mike Farley

    Mike Farley Commodore Commodore

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    One species deadly poison is another's after school snack.

    How would the replicator know if you're ordering a 5 kilo chocolate bar to romance Troi or to kill a dog?
     
  6. retroenzo

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    Which then begs the question. Could a person with a severe allergy order something that could send them into anaphylactic shock? Are allergies still a thing in the Star Trek future?
     
  7. Go-Captain

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    In DS9, in different episodes, a phaser is replicated which automatically fires on someone, and another time a rifle is replicated with a transporter muzzle. I think a poison might have been replicated in DS9 once, or a disease, as part of a latent Cardassian security protocol, after Quark changes all the replicators in the station to generate mugs with Quark's themed branding.

    As someone else pointed out, if some drugs can be replicated, then some poisons/toxins/carcinogens etc should be replicatable. Not all, because we know there are drugs and certain naturally occurring chemicals which cannot be replicated, such as a particular mineral water.
    If I were writing Star Trek, I would have the cure for all allergies as a working assumption, at least so far as deadly or otherwise heightened reactions go. There have been some contradictory statements in regard to sneezes being all but eliminated thanks to a cure for the common cold, but later on, in another episode, someone might have got a cold. In either case, it seems that sneezes are so rare that maybe no allergies is a thing in Star Trek.

    I would assume Barkley has allergies but I don't think he ever exhibited any.
     
  8. Ithekro

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    Retnox Five. Kirk as "allergic" to retnox.
     
  9. Captain Triggered

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    are all replicators hooked up to some kind of permanent network? does earth seem entirely wirelessly networked at high data speeds in earth episodes? can individual units be hacked and modded? or black market isolinear chips installed or something? can you get drunk and die off replicated alcohol? or is it all synthehol? if you're in pain, order up some morphine? do coke dealers no longer go to suppliers, but go to replicator hackers? it seems likely you can make whatever, since malicious stuff has been made in them. unless it ruins the plot if such-and-such can be made
     
  10. Captain Triggered

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    do big starships have industrial replicators on board? i don't remember anything being replicated of moderate size.

    but if you needed to copy stuff, wouldn't it be pretty easy with a transporter? it inadvertantly makes clones often enough. store something in the pattern buffer and just keep transporting it? where did it get matter to make thomas riker?
     
  11. MacLeod

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    The Intrepid class ot VOY must have on, after all they seemingly had an endless supply of hull and shuttle plates. ;)
     
  12. retroenzo

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    FTFY
     
  13. Tenacity

    Tenacity Commodore Commodore

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    A shuttle craft can't be referred to as a "shuttle?"
     
  14. retroenzo

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    It can but I was differentiating between shuttle plates and whole shuttlecraft which seem to reproduce like tribbles on Voyager.
     
  15. Go-Captain

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    When Voyager builds the Delta Flyer it is built in parts so it seems reasonable the shuttles are built from replicated parts too, instead of being replicated in one go.

    We don't know what an industrial replicator is specifically, but they seem powerful enough and rare enough (given, I think, just one could turn Bajor's economy around) that it seems unlikely every starship has one rather than an upsized machine shop replicater of some sort.
     
  16. Saturn0660

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    You can replicate anything in the database.
     
  17. FreddyE

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    Anything but gold plated latinum of course...
     
  18. Nakita Akita

    Nakita Akita Captain Captain

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    Who is to say what is 'poison' ?
    I have some weed killer that could probably kill a person if they drank it for example.

    On DS9 I think they replicated a weapon that could shoot through walls.:eek:
     
  19. Kor

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    General-purpose replicators in crew quarters probably have security protocols to prevent replication of certain substances or items.

    Or they may simply be limited to a pre-programmed menu that does not include those harmful things in the first place. Computers can only do what they are specifically told to, after all.

    If someone is resourceful enough, they may be able to work around the restrictions somehow.

    Kor
     
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  20. B.J.

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    Replicating components or ingredients is probably an easy way around that.
     
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