Reliant Drawings WIP

[Kirkunit]

Hey All,

As I mentioned on another site, I'm working on a set of drawings for the Reliant. My initial plan was to just detail the parts I needed to convert a Polar Lights' 1/350 refit into a Reliant, but as I got into it I was having too much fun & decided to take the drawings a little further.

I also promised that "I would have something to show soon," so I decided to post what I have so far. Now, in my mind these are far from done. The majority of the geometry is there, but there is a whole lot of detail missing. Not to mention reconciling the geometry across all the views, adding graphics, adding aztec-ing, etc.

I decided to approach these drawings by using only pictures and screen caps of the large ILM miniature as reference. I've seen many, if not all, of the fan-made and professional schematics, and noticed that all of them have their own quirks. I also didn't want to be biased by anyone else's work -- or be accused of plagiarism!

I welcome any and all feedback. I'll warn you though, there's a lot in my head that's not on paper, yet. (So, if my answer is "I know, I know..." please don't be offended.)

http://content.glidesociety.com/image.aspx?id=b6cdc560-cf33-4e8f-9d47-132def76df2c

http://content.glidesociety.com/image.aspx?id=0631feab-f183-4835-aa34-32993583fe3a

 

[Albertese]

That's pretty cool.

--Alex

 

[MadMan1701A]

Those are great. I'd love to have one of these on my wall, as a nice big poster.

 

[Kaiser]

Best drawings of the Miranda Class i've ever seen

 

[Kirkunit]

Thanks everyone!

MadMan: You must not be married!

 

[Kitt98]

Hey All,

As I mentioned on another site, I'm working on a set of drawings for the Reliant. My initial plan was to just detail the parts I needed to convert a Polar Lights' 1/350 refit into a Reliant, but as I got into it I was having too much fun & decided to take the drawings a little further.

I also promised that "I would have something to show soon," so I decided to post what I have so far. Now, in my mind these are far from done. The majority of the geometry is there, but there is a whole lot of detail missing. Not to mention reconciling the geometry across all the views, adding graphics, adding aztec-ing, etc.

I decided to approach these drawings by using only pictures and screen caps of the large ILM miniature as reference. I've seen many, if not all, of the fan-made and professional schematics, and noticed that all of them have their own quirks. I also didn't want to be biased by anyone else's work -- or be accused of plagiarism!

I welcome any and all feedback. I'll warn you though, there's a lot in my head that's not on paper, yet. (So, if my answer is "I know, I know..." please don't be offended.)

http://content.glidesociety.com/image.aspx?id=b6cdc560-cf33-4e8f-9d47-132def76df2c

http://content.glidesociety.com/image.aspx?id=0631feab-f183-4835-aa34-32993583fe3a

Wow nice blue prints. I do not know enough to tell you how to make it better only enough to tell you great job

 

[ST-One]

Now, those are really pretty cool drawings.
Very well done.

 

[Sarvek]

Totally fantastic work! I am truly impressed with this Reliant. It is so detailed and well done. I am looking foreward to more. Keep up the great work Kirkunit!

 

[Kirkunit]

Thanks again, everyone. I don't have any actual updates, but I did want to share a little more info on the work I've done so far.

First, I'm doing this in Adobe Illustrator. Obviously, Illustrator is great for illustrations, but a nice bonus is the vector files I'm creating can also drive our laser cutter at work. As I mentioned above, my original intention was to build a Reliant out of a 1/350 refit kit. Being able to laser cut (and scribe) parts is a nice, but certainly not necessary, perk. Although, I will admit laser cutting aztec frisket is a Godsend!

Second, I've made a number of discoveries that challenged certain assumptions I had about the Reliant. Maybe I'm alone here, but I thought I'd share them anyway:
•The aft end (where the hangar bays are) is not two flat, but angled walls that intersect along the center line, but rather, an arc concentric to the saucer. Judging by the resources I've seen, most people seem to get this wrong.
•The stripes that run around the edge of the saucer, between the windows, and back toward the hanger bays are not just painted on. There are actual grooves cut in there, too. I'd always thought these stripes were just painted on as a cost saving measure.
•However, the "vents" that run along the leading & trailing edges of the roll bar & engine struts ARE just painted on & not actual geometry. This was a real surprise. I suppose, since the corresponding details on the refit are physical bits of geometry, it was easy to look at the painted details on the Reliant and assume they were really there.
•The windows along the leading edge of the aft bulkhead are not symmetrical. I also suspect the windows along the side of the aft bulkhead are asymmetrical, too. I just haven't documented them, yet.
•A good chunk of the upper side of the aft bulkhead seems to be removable. It also may be that a number a fasteners (screws?) that keep this piece in place are covered with small, raised rectangles. In later pictures, these rectangles appear larger, as if the originals were lost & replaced.
•The Impulse Crystal-thing on the upper side of the aft bulkhead, toward the rear is NOT mirrored underneath. The similar-looking geometry is actually quite different, most notably lacking the dome feature from the upper counterpart. In fact, not only is there no dome, there is a hole there instead.
•All of the starboard-skewed Star Fleet markings are mirrors of the familiar pennant, much like the American Flag on military aircraft. The refit is like this, too, but it's an easily (and often missed) detail.

I know there's more, I just can't think of it right now!

 

[Kirkunit]

Update time!

This may not look like much, but I actually spent quite a bit of time reworking the roll bar. Especially, the torpedo launcher & the Phaser cannons. You'll also notice I have the aztec pattern represented on the roll bar. I had to fudge a couple of areas due to lack of clear resource material, but I think I captured the spirit of the pattern pretty closely.

One odd thing I noticed: the starboard, aft Phaser cannon has two red stripes on the emitter. Not sure why that cannon was singled out (or, for that matter, why the other three were left off). I also noticed the Reliant has two rectangular hatches on the sides of the saucer, instead of one like the Enterprise. BTW, I cheated on the hatches a little bit. I didn't have clear pictures of it/them, so I copied the detailing from the Enterprise's hatches.

Other additions include upgraded graphics, windows, Impulse detailing & many other small tweaks. Of course, these are still far from done, but I'm getting there slowly but surely.

As always, I welcome all comments & critiques.


http://content.glidesociety.com/image.aspx?id=2457a92b-619f-4eca-8821-b834fcc83b92

http://content.glidesociety.com/image.aspx?id=257a1ee7-fd8d-40de-ba8b-f583894bf066

 

[Wingsley]

Looking at these drawings (impressive, to say the least!), and noticing that huge upper pod, I can't help but wonder if it's large enough to house a warp drive engineering room between the torpedo bays. It looks big enough to house two decks, doesn't it?

 

[Kaiser]

Update time!

This may not look like much, but I actually spent quite a bit of time reworking the roll bar. Especially, the torpedo launcher & the Phaser cannons. You'll also notice I have the aztec pattern represented on the roll bar. I had to fudge a couple of areas due to lack of clear resource material, but I think I captured the spirit of the pattern pretty closely.

One odd thing I noticed: the starboard, aft Phaser cannon has two red stripes on the emitter. Not sure why that cannon was singled out (or, for that matter, why the other three were left off). I also noticed the Reliant has two rectangular hatches on the sides of the saucer, instead of one like the Enterprise. BTW, I cheated on the hatches a little bit. I didn't have clear pictures of it/them, so I copied the detailing from the Enterprise's hatches.

Other additions include upgraded graphics, windows, Impulse detailing & many other small tweaks. Of course, these are still far from done, but I'm getting there slowly but surely.

As always, I welcome all comments & critiques.


http://content.glidesociety.com/image.aspx?id=2457a92b-619f-4eca-8821-b834fcc83b92

http://content.glidesociety.com/image.aspx?id=257a1ee7-fd8d-40de-ba8b-f583894bf066

these... are ....awesome...

 

[The Castellan]

Looking at these drawings (impressive, to say the least!), and noticing that huge upper pod, I can't help but wonder if it's large enough to house a warp drive engineering room between the torpedo bays. It looks big enough to house two decks, doesn't it?

Doubt you wanna have that stuff in the pod.

 

[Kirkunit]

Looking at these drawings (impressive, to say the least!), and noticing that huge upper pod, I can't help but wonder if it's large enough to house a warp drive engineering room between the torpedo bays. It looks big enough to house two decks, doesn't it?

Thanks.

It never occurred to me that Engineering might be in that pod. Personally, I think the idea has a couple of things going against it: first, like you said, there doesn't seem to be much room in there. Second, it's pretty tough to get people in there, unless they're beamed in. I expect there's a lift of some sort in the struts, but it seems like such a thing would be used for emergency situations only.

 

[Patrickivan]

Looking at these drawings (impressive, to say the least!), and noticing that huge upper pod, I can't help but wonder if it's large enough to house a warp drive engineering room between the torpedo bays. It looks big enough to house two decks, doesn't it?

Thanks.

It never occurred to me that Engineering might be in that pod. Personally, I think the idea has a couple of things going against it: first, like you said, there doesn't seem to be much room in there. Second, it's pretty tough to get people in there, unless they're beamed in. I expect there's a lift of some sort in the struts, but it seems like such a thing would be used for emergency situations only.

There is no way in hell that engineering is in that pod. It's got to be all automated, with only maintenance access as required.

Awesome drawings dude- I too would love to have them on my wall!

 

[AnyStar]

^ agreed, the only access to the pod is via jefferies tube. no way main engineering is up there. another clue is the impulse deflection crystal clearly depicted on the upper hull, there is always a direct feed to there and the engines themselves from the warp core.

i'm loving these drawings, keep up the good work!

 

[Kirkunit]

^Thanks again! What you say about the Impulse Crystal/Warp relationship is probably true, however the only example of this is on the refit Enterprise. And even there, it's only represented as such in posters and books, not on screen. That said, I do like the notion that the power generated in engineering drives not only the Warp engines, but the Impulse engines, too.

 

[AnyStar]

i also found it to be true on the Galaxy class plans i'm working on now. there is no crystal thingy on the Ent-D, but the warp core shunts right up there to the reactor workings of the main impulse engine!

 

[Sarvek]

Great work Kirkunit. Keep those updates coming. These are the most accurate detail drawings that I have ever seen. Great work.