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Recasting the Harry Potter Movie Cast

I'm not sure, but you're right about how close it looks to the movie location.
 
Cicero said:
I think it comes from the essentially mercenary intention of the series. It's not meant to be a more faithful adaptation, re-imbue the magic that was absent from the later films, or bring a new artist perspective to the series. It exists because Warner Bros. wants customers for HBO Max.

In some aspect of that, the social contract between company and audience isn't being fully honored.

The films started with Chris Columbus and Alfonso Cuaron directing, and John Williams on the score—and the adult cast was a who's who of generations of British actors, e.g. Richard Harris, Alan Rickman, Maggie Smith, Emma Thompson, Kenneth Branagh, Gary Oldman, Helena Bonham Carter, Ralph Fiennes.

We see a similar amount of hostility every time someone makes a sequel or prequel to The Wizard of Oz.
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Richard Harris isn't British.
 
TimeIsAPredator said:
Richard Harris isn't British.
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I understand that the term is used to refer exclusively to Great Britain and/or the U.K. in the British Isles, but in the U.S. it's uncontroversially used for all of the islands (hence the many references to J.K. Rowling's "British-only" rule).
 
Cicero said:
I understand that the term is used to refer exclusively to Great Britain and/or the U.K. in the British Isles, but in the U.S. it's uncontroversially used for all of the islands (hence the many references to J.K. Rowling's "British-only" rule).
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No it's not. British is only ever used when someone makes a mistake. I don't believe it's a thing that it's uncontroversial to call someone from Limerick British in the US. Certainly never seen it in my or my families experience.

Rowling had a "British only" rule because like many she is ignorant. She had a British and Irish rule. Even the name of the country according to the British was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (now Northern Ireland) so by their own rules Ireland should never be called Britain.
 
TimeIsAPredator said:
Rowling had a "British only" rule because like many she is ignorant. She had a British and Irish rule. Even the name of the country according to the British was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (now Northern Ireland) so by their own rules Ireland should never be called Britain.
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The terminology actually changed in the opposite direction. Ancient Greek sailors first called the islands "the Britains," after a local ethnic group they may have had contact with. The native names of the two islands at the time seem to have been closer to Irene and Albion, but the Greeks referred to them as "Little Britain" and "Great Britain."

At the time, they were a backwater at the edge of the world. It's only modern politics that make the terminology seem difficult, and those politics often don't reach us here.

(It doesn't help that we're often completely unaware which actors are Irish, Scottish, Welsh, English, etc.; I looked up David Tennant just now because the only country I was sure he wasn't from was Wales.)
 
Cicero said:
The terminology actually changed in the opposite direction. Ancient Greek sailors first called the islands "the Britains," after a local ethnic group they may have had contact with. The native names of the two islands at the time seem to have been closer to Irene and Albion, but the Greeks referred to them as "Little Britain" and "Great Britain."

At the time, they were a backwater at the edge of the world. It's only modern politics that make the terminology seem difficult, and those politics often don't reach us here.

(It doesn't help that we're often completely unaware which actors are Irish, Scottish, Welsh, English, etc.; I looked up David Tennant just now because the only country I was sure he wasn't from was Wales.)
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Well now they have and now you know. Richard Harris isn't British and neither are the Gleesons.
 
This handy map seems to show a pretty comprehensive layout of Brit geographical terminology:

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Wouldn't it be more apt to refer to anyone from the area as being from the UK? That usually removes any sort of confusion from the equation.

Edit: Nevermind, I see my error. It excludes the Republic of Ireland.
 
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ichab said:
How about we just say "Non American Actor" and move on?
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I've learned from people from other countries, that they kind of hate it when people from the US refer to themselves as American. I kinda get it. There is a whole North and South America that aren't part of the US.
 
Sketcher said:
I've learned from people from other countries, that they kind of hate it when people from the US refer to themselves as American. I kinda get it.
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Yeah, it becomes annoying for other countries on the continent, such as Canada, when we get referred to as Americans. Technically we're from North America, but my Country is Canada, but still foreign people will often try to lump us in with Americans. Doesn't help that when Americans travel abroad, they like to wear canadian pins so as to better be perceived.
 
Sketcher said:
I've learned from people from other countries, that they kind of hate it when people from the US refer to themselves as American. I kinda get it. There is a whole North and South America that aren't part of the US.
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The things people choose to care about.:shrug:
 
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Sketcher said:
I've learned from people from other countries, that they kind of hate it when people from the US refer to themselves as American. I kinda get it. There is a whole North and South America that aren't part of the US.
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I agree totally. So the other nations should follow suit, whether they ruffle feathers or not.
 
^Usually means the seasons were filmed back to back, then purchased as a package. And yeah, 3rd season renewals often mean more in this case, and it's sometimes why you often see Netflix only have 3 season shows.

Personally, I don't see announcing renewal before things have even aired to be a good tactic. I think it's much better if they wait until the first season has aired.
 
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