RDM; the verdict
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Yeah, that's nonsense.Though anytime I read someone comment on how DS9 wasn't any good until RDM came onboard I weep a little.
I enjoyed RDM's work. We should remember that he is given the writing credit regardless of how much of the script/idea might have been his. Ron Moore might have had a gem, and it might have been destroyed by the director or the execs, or the studio for that matter. Likewise, Moore might have had a clunker that was fixed by Mike Piller or Berman or maybe even Braga (ducks for flying tomatoes!)
But, I'll still give him an A
But, I'll still give him an A
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Keep in mind that the studio wanted Kirk to appear "only" at the beginning and at the end of the film. Also, it was either the writers, Berman, or the studio that wanted a plot device involving other than time travel to bring Kirk to the 24th century. Hence: The Nexus.^
He was. He just quit soon after.
I'd say around B. Like his Klingons better than, it seems, most; and his output on TNG was in general above par and pretty promising for a first time writer.
We didn't get two crews, and the villain was hardly better than Khan. It's true Moore got a checklist, but that can hardly justify the very lazy writing about, for example, the Nexus (you can't get into it by ship because they blow up... but how did Soran get there in the first place? Oh yeah, an exploding ship). What I can say to his credit (or Braga's?) is there are some nice speeches and musings about time. And I don't see a 'make a stupid Data subplot' on that list either.
I also heard that the studio or Berman wanted them to destroy the Enterprise-D so that they could get a new one.
Personally, considering all those "requirements" I say that Moore/Braga were almost there. But, it's a shame that it wasn't the film that fans were asking for after all those years of waiting for seeing Kirk and Picard together on screen: an actual "Kirk and Picard" film! (similar to Redford and Newman...)
D not impressed
I think Ron Moore is an impressive and talented writer. He understands theme and character very well. However, I'm a little put off by his apparent cynicism and contrariness, which I don't think meshes well with Star Trek when unrestrained. It was wonderful when he was on TNG and tempered by Piller and Roddenberry (in fact, I'm sure that fueled a lot of great writing just from the arguments) but I'm not so sure about DS9 whose writing staff seemed to be mostly cut from the same cloth.
Not that I can argue too much with that because I'm sure his development as a writer on DS9 with that staff was a prime catalyst for his movement into BSG. Which, warts and all, is an excellent show and I think, to a great extent, Moore's ultimate fulfillment as a writer.
Not that I can argue too much with that because I'm sure his development as a writer on DS9 with that staff was a prime catalyst for his movement into BSG. Which, warts and all, is an excellent show and I think, to a great extent, Moore's ultimate fulfillment as a writer.
Keep in mind that the studio wanted Kirk to appear "only" at the beginning and at the end of the film. Also, it was either the writers, Berman, or the studio that wanted a plot device involving other than time travel to bring Kirk to the 24th century. Hence: The Nexus.^
He was. He just quit soon after.
I'd say around B. Like his Klingons better than, it seems, most; and his output on TNG was in general above par and pretty promising for a first time writer.
We didn't get two crews, and the villain was hardly better than Khan. It's true Moore got a checklist, but that can hardly justify the very lazy writing about, for example, the Nexus (you can't get into it by ship because they blow up... but how did Soran get there in the first place? Oh yeah, an exploding ship). What I can say to his credit (or Braga's?) is there are some nice speeches and musings about time. And I don't see a 'make a stupid Data subplot' on that list either.
I also heard that the studio or Berman wanted them to destroy the Enterprise-D so that they could get a new one.
Personally, considering all those "requirements" I say that Moore/Braga were almost there. But, it's a shame that it wasn't the film that fans were asking for after all those years of waiting for seeing Kirk and Picard together on screen: an actual "Kirk and Picard" film! (similar to Redford and Newman...)
Who said the studio wanted Kirk only at the beginning and end? That was a choice of the writers/producers - ie Rick AH Berman
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