Racist Tropey Nonsense (spoilers ep 2)

[cultcross]

Is... Is this sarcasm?

You know, as in an ironic, pisstaking spoof of buzzword-throwing, pearl clutching, inadvertently racist SJWs?

Cause in that case, kudos! You managed to capture the hysterical handwringing just right!

Extra bonus points for the subtle dig on SJWs with the hypocritical, inadvertently racist comment on Albino POC.

This is clearly aimed at the poster and not addressing the content one way or the other.
Warning for trolling, comments to PM.


Everybody else, settle down. I hope we can have a sensible discussion about this topic in here, so I want to leave it open. But I suggest we leave "SJW" references to one side, to start off with.

 

[Kane_Steel]

I felt nothing from Yeoh's death. It was anti-climatic.

If they really wanted to make a shocking emotional impact, they should have chopped off her head GOT style.

 

[skip bittman]

If the show is honking off the hard right (OMG, the diversity!), and the hard left, CBS must be doing something right.

Heh. Yeah, that's my consolation prize if I continue not enjoying the series. I don't have to like it, but at least it REALLY pisses off the RIGHT people. I'm petty enough to support that!

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Hmmm...It could be argued (and probably accurately so) that the Albino IS the person of color, while the dark-skinned Klingons are the "privileged majority".

 

[Kor]

Hmmm...It could be argued (and probably accurately so) that the Albino IS the person of color, while the dark-skinned Klingons are the "privileged majority".

...thus subverting the status quo of the target audience in brilliant Trek fashion.

Kor

 

[Spider]

Lokai and Bele are watching.

 

[BillJ]

I like Yeoh, the actress. They couldn't get Georgiou, the character off the screen fast enough. The pale imitation of Picard (which I pin on bad writing) just did nothing for me.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I assume the problem the Klingons have with Voq is his "deformity" not his race. My sister is an albino and was mocked all through her childhood by people of all colors and backgrounds

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I assume the problem the Klingons have with Voq is his "deformity" not his race.

Maybe.

 

[Hey Missy]

Remember in TUC when Cartwright (a black man) said those shockingly racist things about Klingons? In the future, racism might be abolished among humans, but that doesn't mean we'll turn racism towards aliens instead. I thought that was pretty edgy for 1991.

 

[Dukhat]

SO wtf seriously this show begins by killing off two people of colour, LEADERS of their people and replacing them with white people. First we get the older asian female captain killed off and being replaced by a white man presumably in ep 3.Then we get the blackest of Klingons we've ever seen killed off and replaced with an Albino Klingon! Like what the actual heck?!

Albino Klingon is giving me a Shinzon vibe, the creepy white fatherless underdog.

I think this is a very unfortunate way to begin.

The whole tone of this post feels like flamebait to me. An alien played by a black actor and a person of Greek descent (judging by the name) played by an Asian actor die, and all of a sudden DSC is a racist pile of crap? Never mind that they're not the only characters who die, or that the main character is African American. What's your point here? So if they were both white, you'd be fine with them dying?

"Racist tropey nonsense" indeed.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Lokai and Bele are watching.

Bele is the privileged class because he is all white underneath with black on top. Lokai, of course, is the minority because he is all black underneath with white only on top.

 

[cultcross]

Remember in TUC when Cartwright (a black man) said those shockingly racist things about Klingons? In the future, racism might be abolished among humans, but that doesn't mean we'll turn racism towards aliens instead. I thought that was pretty edgy for 1991.

I do, it was horrible. Nichelle Nichols allegedly refused to say the 'guess who's coming to dinner' line. I'm not that fond of Starfleet officers disposing racist tendencies to be honest, although it's in that movie's favour that it explicitly showed that as being wrong in the end. While Burnham's were challenged by both the admiral and Sarek, there there some comments about Kelpians which were treated as jokes.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Maybe.

On the after show Harberts said Voq has the Klingon version of albinism

 

[CorporalCaptain]

On the after show Harberts said Voq has the Klingon version of albinism

OK, thank you. I'm still waiting till later this week to catch ep 2.

 

[Tuskin38]

I like Yeoh, the actress. They couldn't get Georgiou, the character off the screen fast enough. The pale imitation of Picard (which I pin on bad writing) just did nothing for me.

She'll probably be back in flashbacks.