quick Death in Winter-question

[Claudia]

Just how old was Wesley when he came aboard the Enterprise? I always thought he was meant to be around the real age of actor Wil Wheaton (born in 1972) which would mean he was 15 years old.

Yet in Death in Winter it says on page 47 that he was 12 when he and Beverly first came on the bridge of the Enterprise-D. It's not a huge issue, mind you, but promoting a 12 year old to the rank of acting ensign is even more ridiculous a notion than doing so with a 15 year old.

So, was I mistaken in my earlier assumptions? Or was this a slight continuity mistake? Or was Wesley's correct age at some point mentioned in canon/TrekLit before?

 

[Marie1]

I've only watched a few episodes of TNG, but wasn't Wesley on Enterprise for a few years as a civilian?

 

[Christopher]

Wesley Crusher was born in 2348. He was 15 when he first came aboard the Enterprise at the start of 2364. He became an acting ensign in the fifth episode, and was somehow promoted to an actual ensign near the end of the third season.

 

[BryanSorensen]

wes was a civilian for a few episodes, by half way through the first season he was made an acting ensign...like what christopher said...ill have to go back and see that part of the book where that is mentioned..may have to ask MJF about where he got that from.

 

[T'Ressa Dax]

Could be a typo...

 

[DGCatAniSiri]

I believe Wesley mentioned his 16th birthday was upcoming in 'Coming Of Age.' So he'd be 15 in 'Encounter at Farpoint.'

 

[Claudia]

Thanks for all your posts!

Another question *g*:

In Generations Picards gets informed of his brother's and nephew's deaths - no mention was made of his sister in law. Does that mean she survived? Or that she simply wasn't deemed worthy of mentioning? Before reading DiW I thought the former because Picard never mentioned her dying and I did get the impression that they had quite a good relationship, yet DiW specifically states that she died in that fire as well (p. 74).

Is there some background information available about that?

 

[neogothboy74]

Thanks for all your posts!

In Generations Picards gets informed of his brother's and nephew's deaths - no mention was made of his sister in law. Does that mean she survived? Or that she simply wasn't deemed worthy of mentioning? Before reading DiW I thought the former because Picard never mentioned her dying and I did get the impression that they had quite a good relationship, yet DiW specifically states that she died in that fire as well (p. 74).

I always assumed that Marie survived as well, and hoped for more information on her, as "Family" is one of my favorite Next Generation episodes. To learn that she also died in the fire when this didn't seem the case in Generations (it certainly didn't play that way) strikes me as just one more misfortunate story choice by MJF. I've never read this book, as MJF books always seem to disappoint me. This is unfortunate because many of his books are based on questions that I want answered, but then in reading them I always feel they're horribly told. The first meeting of Picard & Guinan (from his perspective) in Oblivion is a good example; so much potential, but it just felt wasted. The sole exception for me was the novelization of "All Good Things..." which I felt actually improved on the episode itself.

 

[William Leisner]

In Generations Picards gets informed of his brother's and nephew's deaths - no mention was made of his sister in law. Does that mean she survived? Or that she simply wasn't deemed worthy of mentioning? Before reading DiW I thought the former because Picard never mentioned her dying and I did get the impression that they had quite a good relationship, yet DiW specifically states that she died in that fire as well (p. 74).

Picard misspoke.

 

[Trent Roman]

I'm almost certain I've read something--recently, at that--wherein Marie was confirmed as still alive (as, for my money, Generations implies) but had taken over the vineyards and... remarried? Can't for the life of me figure out where that tidbit might come from, however.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[Brendan Moody]

^I feel like there's some reference to Marie in "Eleven Hours Out" from Tales of the Dominion War, but I don't have the book handy so I can't be sure. I remember being surprised because I had assumed Marie died in the fire.

Edit: a quick Google Books search confirms that Marie is alive as of "Eleven Hours Out," but it isn't the source of the additional backstory Trent remembers.

 

[Trent Roman]

Aha! I do have the book on hand, and can confirm she's referred to a number of times, alive and well, trying to rebuild a semblance of family, as of the Breen attack in "Eleven Hours Out".

I also thought to check Memory Beta after posting, and while Marie doesn't yet have a page, the one for Chateau Picard indicates that Q&A also makes referrence to her surviving and taking over the vineyard. I'm not going to flip through Q&A to check, but since both it and Tales of the Dominion War are KRAD joints, I wouldn't be surprised.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[Brendan Moody]

Another Google Books search shows that Q & A does have Marie alive and running the vineyard. (In fact, it says that she had always been in charge of it, because Robert didn't have a head for business.) Don't see anything about a remarriage, though.

 

[Trent Roman]

I could simply be mistaken on that point (it's happened once or twice in the past).

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[Claudia]

Thanks again for your comments!

Now that you've mentioned it, I remember reading about Marie in Tales of the Dominion War. I think it's funny that she's mentioned in Q&A as well, turns out she's another one of those resurrected, not quite dead characters. *g*