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Question about Where no one has gone before

It really doesn't. None of it does.

We hear of no Traveling being involved in the previous Kosinski hijinks. It can only have been pure setup for the real deal, and nothing more.

We don't see Wes contribute to the Traveling we see in any particular way. When the time comes to contribute, the whole crew takes part.

We don't see the starship really contributing, either. Whatever Kosinski does to her, doesn't matter. And the Traveler describes the crew as the key element in what he is doing, not the ship. For all we know, the engines are idling throughout the adventure, just as the instruments are telling LaForge.

Once again, writer intent seems to amount to fairly little, while an enjoyable and intriguing adventure emerges nevertheless...

Timo Saloniemi
 
I don't believe it is. As I understand it, what you're saying is that the Traveler was actively searching for someone "special" and then consciously caused the "accident" to happen when he found Wesley.
I'm not exactly saying that. That is something of a leap. I initially said I like the idea, & drew some hypotheses around it, but it's entirely possible to not be the case too. What I do think is that he is self-defined as a lone traveler, who chooses to seek out & interact with others he finds, & what would be the point of that except to connect in some way with other's like himself, others like Wesley, with whom he has this commonality of special connection to the universe?

Also he's maybe examining creatures he finds who aren't quite yet there, but are on the path to it, like Humans, & kind of even helping them along a little bit in lesser ways, like their propulsion techniques etc.... So was he on a mission to find someone like Wes? Probably not. Was he generally looking for others who he is like? Very possibly, & did he find Wes to be one of them? I think so. Now as to the deliberateness of the event...
According to the script, the "Assistant" (aka the Traveler) was sharing his propulsion insights (while letting Kosinski take the credit) in exchange for just getting to wander and explore. When he happened across Wesley by chance, he noticed that the boy was a genius and encouraged him to tweak the warp equation, which had the unintended effect of making the improvements work even better than expected. You're reading premeditation and deceit into it, and I don't believe that was the scripted intent at all
It's not premeditation, & certainly not deceit I'm implying, but if the Traveler understands these permutations or whatever, then anything Wes would've done to them, he'd be more than likely to understand the consequences of. Whatever Wes did, if it had the effect of causing that event, then he certainly had foreknowledge that something like this would or could happen. I mean this is his natural state, doing things like this, & Wes is in the infancy of it.

What I think is there's reason to believe that when he saw Wes do it, at that point, he kind of knew they were in for a ride, & decided to let it play out. Maybe he didn't expect it to get as out of hand as it did, but it certainly isn't out of the realm of possibility that he'd known what was coming. Was that his mission statement, to go find people burgeoning on manipulation of the space/time continuum, & then give them a push? I highly doubt it.

He's just a traveler, out there looking to understand the people out there (Not unlike our crew) & he probably has gone a looooong time without encountering anyone like himself. So when Wes came along he let it happen because it is something special, & maybe ought to be brought out. That's not really premeditation, but it certainly isn't all accident either. It's letting the chips fall where they may. The only accidental thing about it imho, is that it went a little too far, & Mr. Traveler had an unintended difficulty in returning this city sized vessel of panicked people back to where they started.
 
The entire arc of the Traveler was simply focused to get Wesley alone in another plain of existence. The character was downright creepy.
 
The entire arc of the Traveler was simply focused to get Wesley alone in another plain of existence.

Hardly, because that idea hadn't been conceived yet in the Traveler's first two appearances. It was a retcon introduced in "Journey's End."

And there's nothing creepy about a mentor seeing brilliance in a protege and seeking to cultivate it. Masters taking apprentices has been normal throughout history, and was one of the main ways people learned their trades before there was a formal educational system.
 
Rewatching the first scene where they go to warp, the Traveller turns to look at Wesley and during that distraction we hears beeps to indicate something has gone wrong and Kosinski frantically asks him what he’s doing. We then see the Traveller quickly turn back to the controls with a panicked look on his face. So I’m fairly sure the intention (at the time at least) was for it to be an accident caused by the Traveller being distracted.
 
And there's nothing creepy about a mentor seeing brilliance in a protege and seeking to cultivate it. Masters taking apprentices has been normal throughout history, and was one of the main ways people learned their trades before there was a formal educational system.

Some people take themselves and Star Trek way too seriously.
 
Both. And neither.

Yes, he sees an exceptional mind in Wesley as he's scanning the cosmos with his gray matter, so he's going to fake it to get on board to get at him via the most convoluted means (thank Kosinski for rendering that a whole lot easier, too!), even though he could probably and just as easily snap his fingers and Q him away, since he did all the waffling poetic treknoabble about time and space and thought and doctor whoey round things and stuff...

He's also interfacing with primitive, imperfect and unpredictable Earth technology that's bleeding edge cool and fun. Remember the good old days when newly-released Windows 2.0 or MacOS System 6 and they'd always have a blue screen of death or beach ball or little bomb icon saying the system crashed? 24th century technology is still going to be imperfect - look at all those delightful warp core breaches or transporter failures, or another ship barely grazes the side of the rear-corner of a nacelle and the Enterprise promptly explodes...
 
24th century technology is still going to be imperfect - look at all those delightful warp core breaches or transporter failures, or another ship barely grazes the side of the rear-corner of a nacelle and the Enterprise promptly explodes...

Well ....

Warp core breaches are a funny example. In contagion, it is still thought of as 'a highly improbably series of events would need to occur for that to take place'. It was thought not entirely beyond the realm of the possible exactly because the Galaxy class was so new and sophisticated, and something might have been overlooked. Within a few years, it became a somewhat commonplace threat. Federation technology must have regressed massively in those few years.

That, or we see Starfleet officers under the sway of Starfleet propaganda, and it takes a few years for the true picture to emerge.

The latter might be more likely, since they're also always going on about how safe transporters are ....
 
I don't really see the issue here. As default, ships don't sink. But fire enough 16in armor-piercing shells at them and they will.

In "Contagion", the Yamato spontaneously combusted. This was rightly treated as a supernatural event.

In, say, ST:GEN, the Enterprise went kaboom after having been fired upon for a quarter of an hour or so. This was only to be expected.

Timo Saloniemi
 
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