Question about Menagerie or Cage

[Maurice]

Timo said:
...Or then they decided the shaft would be lined with the same material as the door, so the door would actually be the weakest point (although it later turned out this wasn't the case).

Except that it was all an illusion. The whole thing WAS sheared off. Had they fired at the side the Talosians would doubtless have created the illusion that they couldn't blast through that, either.

Which begs the question of why the Talosians allowed them to fire at their entrance in the first place. They could just as easily have made them point off in some random direction and saved their door.

 

[Therin of Andor]

DS9Sega said:
Which begs the question of why the Talosians allowed them to fire at their entrance in the first place. They could just as easily have made them point off in some random direction and saved their door.

They were planning to renovate.

 

[Timo]

Except that it was all an illusion. The whole thing WAS sheared off.

...But the doors, although twisted and molten, were still there, while the entire mass of rock above them was gone. So the doors weren't protected just by an illusion - they were quite laser- and phaser(?)-resistant as well.

Or then that was an illusion, the elevator was never harmed at all, and the Talosians just wanted Pike and his crew to feel satisfied with their accomplishments... Only to next deal a devastating blow to Pike's ego by showing that the damage his ship had done did not exist for real.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Nerys Myk]

TeutonicNights said:
Sorry, but it seems to me they just didn't really care. I love trexplanations as much as the next guy, but if you make two clear statements: that it takes 6 minutes to go to Neptune and back and that they are traveling at 36mil km/h when they just hit Warp 4.4- both obviously confirming the official Warp Chart- and then saying it takes only 4 days to Kronos...

The other series may have had similar mistakes(I doubt it), but why be so specific in-dialogue about it -TWICE- to obviously show you are so aware of the Trek lore, and then blatantly disregard it in the same bloody episode- that's just lame and sloppy.
Why touch the subject at all? It's not relevant to the story or anything, but any kid can do the math and see it's bull.

BTW I don't give a rat's ass about that Warp Chart. That's not what I'm moaning about.
I wouldn't have complained if they hadn't adhered to an "official" Warp chart that makes no sense with what we've seen over the years anyway. This was their chance to retcon it and they blew it.

Of course other series have made mistakes. That's why there is a "James R. Kirk" and why Data is part of the Academy class of '78. It's why Scott sees Kirk die, yet calls for him when released from stasis. Its why DS9 is on the edge of known space ,yet only a short journey from Earth. It's why Vulcan was conquered. It's why Spock's parents seem dead. It's why the number of Kirk Nephews changes. It's why Kirk has a flesh and blood brother that he forgets about in STV. And let's not forget Vulcan's Moon or lack there of.

The people behind these shows and films probably have different priorities than us fans. They work under different pressures and time tables. Sometimes things fall through the cracks and a detail is over looked or a number is skewed. And I think we should thank them. After all it keeps BBS like this hopping.

 

[Pensive]

Nerys Myk said:
Of course other series have made mistakes. That's why there is a "James R. Kirk"

To be fair, "R" and "T" are right beside each other on english keyboards, so maybe this is a typo gone too far