Spoilers Prometheus: Der Ursprung allen Zorns / The Root of All Rage by Perplies & Humberg Review Thread

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  1. ATimson

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    Hadn't seen it yet, honest. :) (Though I did see it on Gallifrey Base first, and thought it worth sharing.)
     
  2. Jinn

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    The thread title was "Big Finish to make Star Trek audio" or something like that and I was just "fuck yeah". Then it turns out it is an adaption of something I already read :D Still nice for you people, but yeah. :D
     
  3. Bernd Perplies

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    I can honestly say: I have no idea what is going on there. But of course I want to know more. So let's see what Titan can tell me ... :)
     
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  4. thribs

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    Big Finish are doing Star Trek? I hope this is appreciated a lot more than their poor Stargate range
     
  5. Bernd Perplies

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  6. Enterprise1701

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    Well, it should be interesting to hear how they pronounce all the names, heh heh.
     
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  7. thribs

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    I suppose it can only be a audiobook since somebof the actors needed for it are dead.
     
  8. Bernd Perplies

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    And I have to correct myself. It SEEMS to be real. In fact I am not sure what to make of the announcement of BiFi. Because, again, neither Christian nor I were told anything about audiobooks. And as of now I have no confirmation from any publisher (Cross Cult or Titan).
     
  9. rhubarbodendron

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    Do you hold all the copyrights? In that case they'd have to notice you and you might have a chance to sue them for a considerable sum. I suggest you ask your publishers for their lawyer - after all, it's the ps' money as well.
    Stress is on *all* copyrights, though - many authors overlook some small print and get cheated out of their earnings. Still, it won't harm to check it out in detail. You can only win. (LOL that sounds like "there can be only one...")

    Big Finish are pretty good, though, from the pov of the customer - they have very good actors/speakers and technitians.
     
  10. Danlav05

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    Looks like just audiobooks.

    If they are just doing audiobooks they could do the autobiographies? If they can get the right readers (Shatner for Kirk, Sir Pat for Picard and Quinto or whoever may play him in Discovery for Spock)

    DESTINY (post-Nemesis mega Borg battle crossover) was popular but there's no audiobook for it yet.
     
  11. Bernd Perplies

    Bernd Perplies Writer Red Shirt

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    We're in contact with every party involved to sort things out. Let's see what they have to say. (And in Germany authors normally get paid for licences, it's a split between them and the publisher selling the rights.)

    In Germany there is. ;) https://www.audible.de/pd/Star-Trek-Destiny-1-Goetter-der-Nacht-Hoerbuch/B0098X556Y
     
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  12. Danlav05

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  13. Steve Roby

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    I’ll probably discover that someone more knowledgeable has already replied but what the heck.

    No one who writes licenced tie-in fiction owns “all the copyrights.” That’s not how it works. The IP owner usually owns the copyright, singular, as well as related rights like ebook rights, international sales rights, audiobook rights, etc. I don’t know about Germany, but in the US, if you write a Star Trek novel, CBS owns it, period. Whether there’s an audiobook and who produces it isn’t up to the author.

    In the UK things can be different; Doctor Who novelists retain the rights to the stuff they create, so they can produce spinoffs like Bernice Summerfield and Faction Paradox as long as they don’t use anything the BBC owns. But with Star Trek, for example, Diane Carey couldn’t spin New Earth off into a series all her own, even if she drops any references to Starfleet, Vulcans, etc.
     
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  14. rhubarbodendron

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    That's interesting. Thank you, SR. Over here in Germany things are much better for the writers. If they use characters someone else invented they'll have to get the inventor's permissionand pay him or her a fee or a percentage of their profits. But for everything that's genuinely yours (plot, character interaction, dialogue, new characters etc) you own the full rights unless you decide to give some of them away, for example to your publisher. Human nature being what it is, everyone tries to cheat you out of your rights; hence it's always vital to read the small print.
    There used to be a sort of trade union for authors, the AG Wort (roughly translated "word-consortium") who assisted you with legal problems and helped you publish your works. They received a moderate fee for their efforts but they dispersed in 2012 so that afaik young authors nowadays don't get any asistance anymore. All the more important for them to keep as many copyright options as they can - the royalties will have to last till their next book is out.

    And my apologies for the terrible grammar in my previous post! They must notify you, of course, not notice you. Goes to show that even a seasoned proof reader needs help now and then. And a vacation and a pound of chocolates *sigh* (not necessariy in that order :D )
     
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  15. thribs

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    Imagine this entity influenced the Discovery. You would never know the difference. :)
     
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  16. James Swallow

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    This is great! I remember bumping into Big Finish's Nick Briggs a year or so back and we briefly discussed Trek audios and the Prometheus novels. I'm sure they'll do great work with them!
     
  17. Enterprise1701

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    *difference
     
  18. thribs

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    Ha! Thanks. I’ll correct. Must have been the spell checker
     
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  20. Bernd Perplies

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    You just beat me to it. ;)

    And about the rights situation: Thats totally up to the contract und can be vastly different. But in this case CC owns the worldwide rights to do what they want with the three existing STP books (i.e. sell the rights for audiobooks etc.), BUT they are not allowed to publish more stories without a new contract with CBS. Because of course, ST is owned by CBS. (And so I guess CBS could issue new STP books without asking us, but I'm not sure about this.)