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Power of the Daleks fan-made recreation

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This looks really cool. The folks behind a series of popular UK stage plays based on Doctor Who episodes have created a fan film reimagining of Power of the Daleks. Not only does it look professional grade in many places, but they even got Nicholas Briggs to do the Dalek voices and cast Lisa Bowerman and Barnaby Edwards (name very familiar to Big Finish fans) in it.

Apparently it's going to be released in 3 web episodes and the whole thing is going to be shown on the big screen at a convention in September.

More details, plus the trailer here:

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2012/03/0903122208-power-of-daleks-fan-film.html

A fellow named Nick Scovell plays a rather low-key Doctor. He is not doing an impersonation of Troughton. And the trailer suggests this version might not include Ben and Polly either. Looks intriguing.

Alex
 
Blue and silver looking good for RTDs era Daleks, I wonder if Silver and Blue could salvage the Moffatt Daleks
 
Looks interesting. Though I suspect that most of us would prefer a full version of the original.

True, but since this is one of the lost stories, I'm not holding my breath (though of course an audio version exists if you go hunting). That's probably why this one looks like it'll work - very few people have memories of what the original looked and sounded like, so this is going to be fresh for them.

All that said, I'm curious how they got away with this. There are plenty of fan productions, and in the 1990s many of the people now involved with Big Finish, not to mention the new series (Briggs and Mark Gatiss for two) made a cottage industry out of making independent, creator-licensed spinoffs featuring Autons, Sontarans, individual characters like the Brigadier and Sarah Jane, and so on. But two taboo concepts that they could never touch were the Doctor (because the BBC owned him) and the Daleks (probably due to the cost of licensing them from Terry Nation). This is the first production of this nature that I've seen - complete with Big Finish/BBV/Reeltime veterans involved - to include both.

Then again, I've been expecting all those Star Trek fan films (including the one that got the Hugo nomination) to be shut down by Paramount for years, and it's never happened. Maybe the powers that be have lightened up a bit about this sort of thing.

Alex
 
Very interesting! I wonder if they'll address the regeneration at the beginning or if that's been written out of the whole thing.
 
how are they getting away with it? welll a difference between this Fan Film and the creator-licensed spinoffs you mention.

Fan Films own NOTHING and you wont will make any money directly from the film itself.

The creator-licensed spinoff, were I assume meant to make money and owned the rights (or the rights to use) the Whoverse characters that featured in them. They could not use the Doctor, as they didnt have the rights to do so, those right belong to the BBC (and licensed to Big Finish)

If a fan film was in any danger of making money from using the Doctor, or the Daleks, the BBC and the estate of Terry Nation would shut them down. The BBC doesn't need to made to look like jerks by shutting a Fan Film down, and neither does TEOTN.

Legally I dont think there isnt much difference between any of my poorly written fan fics, and even the best made Fan Film.

Of course as Fan Films get better (such as World Enough and Time) and you get full cast films like Of Gods and Men, that is where the line blurs and the likes of Paramount should be keeping an eye on them.
 
Well. I'm intrigued.

Looks to be of broadcast quality. I'd certainly drop everything at Saturday tea time to watch it.
 
Looks interesting. Though I suspect that most of us would prefer a full version of the original.

All that said, I'm curious how they got away with this.

But two taboo concepts that they could never touch were the Doctor (because the BBC owned him) and the Daleks (probably due to the cost of licensing them from Terry Nation). This is the first production of this nature that I've seen - complete with Big Finish/BBV/Reeltime veterans involved - to include both.

There have been fan videos for decades, DWM even did a feature of them, when there was less to cover! The one that got rave reviews was the Millennium Trap, starring Nick Scovell against the Daleks. That was 15 years ago.

As you say it's due to the stageplays reprisals he was in - Web Of Fear,Fury From The Deep, Evil Of The Daleks and Daleks' Masterplan, due to the later they have a (likely non-for profit) working relationship with both the Nation estate and the BBC. As this is being done non for profit/charity its not a problem.

http://www.evilofthedaleks.co.uk/the-evil-of-the-daleks-stage-show.html
 
how are they getting away with it? welll a difference between this Fan Film and the creator-licensed spinoffs you mention.

Fan Films own NOTHING and you wont will make any money directly from the film itself.

The creator-licensed spinoff, were I assume meant to make money and owned the rights (or the rights to use) the Whoverse characters that featured in them. They could not use the Doctor, as they didnt have the rights to do so, those right belong to the BBC (and licensed to Big Finish)

If a fan film was in any danger of making money from using the Doctor, or the Daleks, the BBC and the estate of Terry Nation would shut them down. The BBC doesn't need to made to look like jerks by shutting a Fan Film down, and neither does TEOTN.

Legally I dont think there isnt much difference between any of my poorly written fan fics, and even the best made Fan Film.

Of course as Fan Films get better (such as World Enough and Time) and you get full cast films like Of Gods and Men, that is where the line blurs and the likes of Paramount should be keeping an eye on them.

All true. And we should owe a debt to the BBC for having a rather relaxed attitude towards the productions over the years. If you look at the credits for things like the PROBE series, the Dominie and Stranger series, the Mistress and K-9 (ahem), even going back to the very first one, Wartime from 1987 featuring John Levene as Benton, you see many people who went on to make Big Finish possible and ultimately contribute to the TV series itself. Nicholas Briggs and Mark Gatiss in particular.

Creator-licensed or not, the BBC could have put its foot down if it wanted to. Even if legally they couldn't, all they needed to do was instigate a court proceeding and most fan productions would have folded because they didn't have the money to pay for a lawyer. That's how Disney keeps its clamps on.

But they chose not to, at least for the most part. The first few "Stranger and Miss Brown" videos from the 1990 starring Colin Baker and Nicola Bryant were basically the Doctor and Peri, except Peri had an English accent and one was even based on a fan-written DW story; someone eventually got antsy or maybe the BBC sent a letter going "hey now" so after a few of those Baker's character became Solomon and an entire new backstory was created and "Miss Brown" went away. Same thing happened when Sylvester McCoy and Sophie Aldred made a series of audio adventures as The Professor and Ace; eventually it became the Dominie and Aldred's character was given a new name too.

And of course we can't forget the Cyberons!

But other than that, thanks to the BBC being rather relaxed and the rules in the UK allowing creator-licensing, we were able to get things like the PROBE series featuring Liz Shaw, a bunch of Auton and Sontaran and Zygon productions, Deadtime featuring the Brigadier, Sarah Jane and Victoria, and a bunch of other projects that kept the Doctor Who franchise going for well over a decade until Big Finish came along.

I see Scovell's work as being a next generation of this sort of thing, though in his case he isn't doing it in lieu of a TV series, but rather as a compliment and a celebration of its history. And thanks to the rather short-sighted junking policies of old (and yes there were many sound reasons for deleting the episodes back in the day, but I can't imagine some people weren't going "what the hell are they doing?" back in 1973. Or they would if it was widely known) it's not as if there's a competing BBC release of Power of the Daleks coming anytime soon.

Alex
 
Big Finish seems like nice legal half way house, for all concerned, certainly when Doctor Who was off air, there was no harm being done by Big Finish.

One thing that is interesting is that Terry Nation didnt keep a copy of Power of the Daleks, it did after all feature something he owned the copyright to, so yes whilst the BBC is on shaky ground for "loosing" the episode in the first place, I do wonder why Terry Nation never had a copy, that said I speak as someone who is used to being able to get a copy of almost anything online, that wasnt always the case, but Terry Nation should have requested a copy to protect the rights to the Daleks, and any future revenue fund.
 
Well, the story as orignally presented works well in novel form so I guess the story is a classic, but I don't know about the dramatic licenses being taken by this group. I have encountered them before some years ago when they did a stage production of Evil of the Daleks and were planning one based on The Dalek Masterplan. Lost touch though.
 
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