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Poll: The Electric car Vs The Hydrogen car.

Electric or Hydrogen???


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I don't know which is 'better' but i know Japan has been working on Hydrogen for a while and should have a car out in the near future. They will do it and are not be tied up with the redtape as over in US. Any alternatives would be great. 2 more years till the Volt and Toyota Prius goes full electrical. (Plug-In to Recharge). I heard that there are garages that can convert todays Prius to plug-in for recharge. (The wheels do that now). I'm glad the gas prices have gone down but they need to change the whole system. I absolutely don't trust any of the gas companies with how things have gone in recent years.
 
I can see how some biofuels could be of benefit, but any process that converts what could be food into fuel is just plain stupid as is happening right now with corn.

The corn market is already fucked, the farmers are already taking it in the ass. We make way more than we can think up uses for. Might as well burn it in an engine.
 
There are already some cars on the market that run on compressed air. With modern wind turbines to generate electricity, this is could be a viable option. Once all 6,000 antique wind turbines at Altamont Pass are replaced with modern ones, that one location will generate as much electricity as nine nuclear power plants if the new ones are those new GE 1.5 MW models or equivalent on average. GE also makes 2.4 and 3.5 MW wind turbines. Wind power is growing rapidly, and so is solar thermal. Wind power worldwide has recently passed U.S. nuclear in total output.

Some compressed-air cars:
http://www.autotechtoday.com/articl...Air-The-MiniCAT-and-CityCAT-by-MDI/Page1.html
 
Enercon is making 6 MW wind turbines.

Love this picture of one btw:
800px-E126-Prototyp-12-02-2008.jpg
 
You think the average New Yorker, for example, thinks they have to own a car? Nope. (Would you want to drive a car in a place like that, anyway?) They have safe, efficient mass transit. What do they need with cars?

NYC may not be the best analog there. We have a lot of other non-scientific considerations with regards to cars in the city, cost of parking, alternate side parking, insurance rates from hell, etc.
 
You think the average New Yorker, for example, thinks they have to own a car? Nope. (Would you want to drive a car in a place like that, anyway?) They have safe, efficient mass transit. What do they need with cars?

NYC may not be the best analog there. We have a lot of other non-scientific considerations with regards to cars in the city, cost of parking, alternate side parking, insurance rates from hell, etc.

All the more reason to abandon cars completely and go all-mass-transit.
 
You think the average New Yorker, for example, thinks they have to own a car? Nope. (Would you want to drive a car in a place like that, anyway?) They have safe, efficient mass transit. What do they need with cars?

NYC may not be the best analog there. We have a lot of other non-scientific considerations with regards to cars in the city, cost of parking, alternate side parking, insurance rates from hell, etc.

All the more reason to abandon cars completely and go all-mass-transit.

Mass transit works great in urban areas but the population density in most of the US is not great enough to make mass transit practical. You can't live in the rural parts of most states without a car and the suburbs are all designed around the car.
 
Until we can get hydrogen from water without obscene amounts of electricity, electric cars make so much more sense.
They have a limited range and are impractical. Everyone believes they are a panacea, but tell me how effective they will be in extremely cold climates. Sorry, but in the end I believe biofuels will win out. Landfills are an huge, untapped source of natural gas.

How about something like a Chevy Volt whose internal combustion engine runs on E85 derived from switch grass and other non-edible weeds? That should be quite doable within the next decade.
 
NYC may not be the best analog there. We have a lot of other non-scientific considerations with regards to cars in the city, cost of parking, alternate side parking, insurance rates from hell, etc.

All the more reason to abandon cars completely and go all-mass-transit.

Mass transit works great in urban areas but the population density in most of the US is not great enough to make mass transit practical. You can't live in the rural parts of most states without a car and the suburbs are all designed around the car.

It doesn't have to be. Implementing Japan-like systems on the coasts and smaller systems in the inland cities with high speed trains running between cities would go a LONG way in solving the problem. The use of electric cars, and getting people to start walking and biking could almost completely eliminate the problem.

The only thing standing in the way (other than the obvious bureaucracy) is Americans would have to have a major shift in culture and lifestyle.

But it has to happen.
 
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