Plato's Stepchildren Syndication Music Query

[Ssosmcin]

Yikes, I haven't seen the syndication prints in years, not the versions Phil Ferrand was watching when he was doing the Nitpicker's Guides. I only remember one music difference in those Paramount Syndie cuts, and that was in "Journey to Babel." They inserted a commercial break when Kirk said to Unhura "I want to know who on board is receiving it!" They then did a video freeze frame on Shatner and tracked the Libaray Cue version of the climax of "Ruk Attacks" over the fade out. It was so cheesy, even my sister laughed. Which is probably why I remember it.

I can spot differences between the old VHS prints and the DVD/Blu-Rays, but for old syndie runs from the 80's, sorry, folks, I've got nothin'.

The 15-CD set wasn't missing anything from "Eden."

Well, unless you count "gonna crack my knuckles and jump for joy, gotta clean billa health from Doctor McCoy!"

 

[Phaser Two]

Did they use that Sickbay fainting scene in "The Immunity Syndrome" as well ("Half the people on the ship just fainted")? I can't recall.

Edit: No, I don't think so.

No. I just rewatched TIS about a week ago. What is interesting about that "everyone just fainted" dialogue is that a huge line of crewmembers forms outside sickbay in something like 60 seconds.

 

[Ssosmcin]

The fainting scene was shot for Spock’s Brain, so it couldn’t have been used for The Immunity Syndrome

 

[Spocko]

Yikes, I haven't seen the syndication prints in years, not the versions Phil Ferrand was watching when he was doing the Nitpicker's Guides. I only remember one music difference in those Paramount Syndie cuts, and that was in "Journey to Babel." They inserted a commercial break when Kirk said to Unhura "I want to know who on board is receiving it!" They then did a video freeze frame on Shatner and tracked the Libaray Cue version of the climax of "Ruk Attacks" over the fade out. It was so cheesy, even my sister laughed. Which is probably why I remember it.

I can spot differences between the old VHS prints and the DVD/Blu-Rays, but for old syndie runs from the 80's, sorry, folks, I've got nothin'.



Well, unless you count "gonna crack my knuckles and jump for joy, gotta clean billa health from Doctor McCoy!"

Actually, any a cappella musical performances are not included in the soundtrack set, so the upbeat version, “Steppin’ in to Eden...” which the space hippies sing just before they leave Auxiliary Control to go to the (alleged) Eden planet isn’t included. The same is true of Alexander’s spoken, rhythmic line in “Plato’s Stepchildren” at the end of his rendition of Aristophanes' “The Frogs”: “βρεκεκεκεξ βρεκεκεκεξ κοαξ κοαξ” (pronounced “bre-ke-ke-kex, ko-ax, ko-ax”). This phrase isn’t included in the soundtrack set since it was apparently a spoken line which was recorded with dialogue on set as opposed to a song which which was recorded separately in a recording booth.

 

[Phaser Two]

The fainting scene was shot for Spock’s Brain, so it couldn’t have been used for The Immunity Syndrome

Well, sure, I get that we know that, but how do we know that? Do the UCLA papers or something else contain a reference to Ms. Barrett executing a huge fall (which she incidentally did very well) or something?

 

[plynch]

One of her better acting moments the franchise, frankly.

 

[Ssosmcin]

One of her better acting moments the franchise, frankly.

Her fall and subsequent head bounce against the floor is expertly done. Seriously, I always felt she did a great job.

 

[Methuselah Flint]

Finally managed to get round to copying the note in question regarding Plato's Stepchildren :

"After Kirk makes like a horse, the scene zooms up to McCoy and breaks for a commercial. In these final moments, the syndicated version has slightly different music than the uncut version."

From the Nitpickers Guide.

It's quite possible there are other music alterations in other episodes cited in the book.

It's also possible there are different versions of syndications and their cuts etc.

For instance, the TOS-R syndication of Zetar which I saw (which according to Nitpickers was one of around 20 that didn't originally get edited in Springfield's broadcast) has an extra commercial break after Scotty is hit by Mira when he helps her into the chamber, and we hear the end-of-act music from Act 1.

So.. Did TOS-R follow a standard version of syndication (except possibly for those 20 odd episodes, in which case they made their own cuts), or did cuts vary from broadcast to broadcast, station to station, and thus there is no 'one' set of cuts?

PS My VHS of The Changeling from the later 3 episodes per tape over here in the UK, had the/a syndicated version, presumably accidentally.