Plans for any more Kelvinverse novels?

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Are there any plans for upcoming Kelvinverse novels?

Yes, I'm aware:

* While an alternate reality may have more room for original stories than the prime universe has (if your book aligns with canon), it also has the possibility of all those prime things, meaning they do take up space in the world

* The possible fourth movie (if it ever gets off the ground) may have an effect on what stories can be told, and may obliterate/replace any stories told in books, but frankly, those books could take place in an alternate alternate universe, in that case.

* The YA novels and graphic novels (comics) fill in a lot of gaps between 09 and ID, and between ID and Beyond, even doing alt versions of TOS stories, but hey, there are still time periods to work with.

* The YA novels and comics also probably appeal more (or at least people think they appeal more) to the younger demographic the films were trying to interest than traditional tie-in novels do.

 

[thribs]

Considering the ordeal it took to get the last two to come out, I doubt it.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Any new stories wouldn't have to be re-worked if they came out quick enough...unless they were coincidentally too similar to an upcoming episode of a current Trek TV series.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Considering the ordeal it took to get the last two to come out, I doubt it.

What happened?

 

[thribs]

Those Kelvin novels that came out recently were actually written years ago but legal issues etc. caused them to be delayed.

 

[Christopher]

Those Kelvin novels that came out recently were actually written years ago but legal issues etc. caused them to be delayed.

Not legal issues, more just that Bad Robot decided it would rather go in a different direction. Apparently, they preferred to generate tie-ins in-house and have direct creative control, which was something they could do more easily with comics or games.

 

[Markonian]

Those Kelvin novels that came out recently were actually written years ago but legal issues etc. caused them to be delayed.

In addition, only two out of the four novels were released. The two unpublished ones at least got their elements folded into VOY: No Time Like the Past, and TOS: Face of the Unknown, at least.

Outside of Star Trek: Fleet Command, and the occasional IDW comic cameo, the Kelvin timeline is dead.

Apparently, they preferred to generate tie-ins in-house and have direct creative control

Frakking parasites. I hate it when companies hog licenses without producing content and merchandise.

 

[Greg Cox]

In addition, only two out of the four novels were released. The two unpublished ones at least got their elements folded into VOY: No Time Like the Past, and TOS: Face of the Unknown, at least.

Just to avoid confusion, No Time Like the Past was a TOS novel, guest-starring Seven of Nine, not a VOY novel.

 

[Christopher]

Frakking parasites. I hate it when companies hog licenses without producing content and merchandise.

Huh? They produced plenty of comics, several YA novels, a couple of computer games, some toys, etc.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Outside of Star Trek: Fleet Command, and the occasional IDW comic cameo, the Kelvin timeline is dead.

It's only as dead as a writer with a good pitch and the publisher decides it is (tie-in wise).

 

[F. King Daniel]

I'd love to read more Kelvinverse novels. Remember when that prequel movie was canned in 1991ish, and Pocket came out with Enterprise: The First Adventure and the book cover said something daft like, "the story the movies wouldn't let you see!"? We could even do something vaguely like the planned/canned Star Trek 4 where George Kirk was stuck in a transporter buffer for 3 decades. Or something vaguely like a space pandemic. Or any of the other half dozen or so Star Trek 4 movie pitches floating around.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Beyond establishes that for a certain period of time before the movie began, Kirk's missions (in his opinion} were starting to become episodic.

Does that mean routine and boring, or more frequent and shorter, or both? It could be Kirk's bad mood talking in his log, or the way things actually are. You'd have to assume the former if you want to tell epic stories in between ID and Beyond.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Beyond establishes that for a certain period of time before the movie began, Kirk's missions (in his opinion} were starting to become episodic.

Does that mean routine and boring, or more frequent and shorter, or both? It could be Kirk's bad mood talking in his log, or the way things actually are. You'd have to assume the former if you want to tell epic stories in between ID and Beyond.

It was literally a meta gag that they'd had a bunch of TOS style adventures between the end of Into Darkness and the start of Beyond.

 

[somebuddyX]

I think we'll see Kelvin again in some form, it just might be a while. There are worse things that could happen to that universe than not being used so I'm happy to let it be.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

It was literally a meta gag that they'd had a bunch of TOS style adventures between the end of Into Darkness and the start of Beyond.

He seemed upset about it, though. Fatigue of so many mini-catastrophes all happening in a short span of time, with hardly a break in between, I guess?

 

[Christopher]

He seemed upset about it, though. Fatigue of so many mini-catastrophes all happening in a short span of time, with hardly a break in between, I guess?

It was just meant to set up his arc in the movie about wanting to leave the ship and take a desk job, with the film's events reaffirming his commitment to command. As you said, just his bad mood talking.

 

[David cgc]

I thought that was an element whose time had come. Though it was underdeveloped, three or four times we’d seen Kirk unhappy with retirement/promotion and wanting to get back in the saddle, but we never saw him when he was getting burned out and wanted a retirement/promotion in the first place (at least, not in TV or movies).

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Maybe a book could give

Spoiler: hiding this from authors

Kirk a do over with the Teenaxi. The comics already make poor "Kevin" a outcast https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Kevin

 

[Desert Kris]

Hi all, it's been a while since I visited, and this topic caught my eye. Most of the time I just lurk from time to time. I remember being really excited about the potential of Star Trek 2009, and wanting to jump at the tie-in novels. I was excited by the idea of seeing the original series characters in a new light, with new context and a different rapport among the ensemble.

I've kind of moved on from the disappointment of what happened with the novels; but I would love to see that version of continuity looked in on again, especially similar along the lines of what the original four were going to go for (with knowledge and understanding of how the three movies eventually unfolded). I wouldn't be opposed to seeing a novel set after Beyond, with a new status quo.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

I've said before that if a 4th film is made, the next logical step in

Spoiler: story idea

Kirk's "daddy issues" saga is finding out that he is/may be a dad (the child would be young - possibly conceived before Kirk joined the Academy, in his wilder years, so maybe aged 10-12, or as young as 6, if the child is Carol's. Additionally, the same movie could also explore Spock and Uhura considering starting a family, especially with the Vulcan population so small now - complete with "how do we raise the child? Vulcan or Human or both?"

That said, any novels written before a 4th film (if there ever is one) may wish to steer clear of creating stories that are life-altering. (Not that that ever stopped previous authors from doing so, or previous TOS screenwriters, for that matter - plenty of trauma that's laughed off and forgotten next episode. I say "may" because some would like their works to have a long "possibly canon" shelf life.)