Ops management: what was the 23rd century equivalent?

[Galactic Alignment]

Was it one of those consoles at the edge of the bridge in TOS? We just didn't see it much as a main character never (or rarely?) manned them?

Were the functions shared between the Science and Engineering bridge stations? (Perhaps even the helm and navigation console too?)

Was it an off-bridge function?

Did Ops Management as a bridge position even exist then?

And is Kelvinverse Chekov actually an Ops officer?

 

[C.E. Evans]

There's no official explanation since the Ops position was created for TNG. One could speculate, though, that Ops may have been an unnamed bridge station, a console in the engine room, or maybe even in a never seen or mentioned operations center somewhere below decks.

 

[drt]

In the real world, I get the feeling that the "operations officer" came into being because the production had to think of a new position that justified Data being in a gold uniform, since for all intents and purposes he was the ship's chief science officer and should have been wearing blue. Once that position became "Ops" they basically just kitchen sink'd it, as originally the consoles behind tactical were normally supposed to be unmanned, which allowed Data's position to essentially cover everything that wasn't helm/navigation and tactical/communications, i.e. most of the other positions around the circle on the TOS/movie bridges.

 

[Galactic Alignment]

Really? Data was properly going to be a science officer in early plans for TNG and sit at the wishbone consoles? Interesting. I guess that some of the more casual viewers would've assumed that he was a science officer of sorts anyway.

(As an aside, I'm not sure why the Ops bridge position in the TNG era is a gold shirt role – surely it has important 'command' functions on a starship? But then the divisional colour coding of uniforms in Trek doesn't make complete sense in all cases.)

 

[drt]

Sorry for the confusion, my assumption was that Data would have had the same seat, it just wouldn't have been called "Ops", although, I'd bet if would have effectively functioned the same as we saw in the show.

 

[USS Triumphant]

One of the TOS novels (I believe it is "Spock's World") discusses Spock spending shore leave time organizing an incoming supply of foodstuffs and pulling a neat storage trick of saving transporter patterns for some of them (the coffee, I think, in particular) in order to keep it fresher. Another, if I recall correctly, mentioned an engineering team adjusting some of the moveable interior walls to accommodate some need. Perhaps over time - and with larger crew sizes and increased demands (and without a Vulcan willing to spend his "free time" that way on every ship) - the job of organizing those sorts of general operations tasks became enough to warrant having a member of the crew who has that as their specific job?

 

[psCargile]

The tng manual states the op manager allocates sensor system workloads, so I guess that duty would fall on the senior science officer in tos.

 

[Tenacity]

^ Doesn't the TNG manual also say that OPS manages shipboard resources.

In the first pilot, I think Number One was stationed at OPS, which would make more sense that having her at the helm. OPS was on the left, and helm and navigation functions were both on the right hand side of the dual comsole.

 

[MacLeod]

Really? Data was properly going to be a science officer in early plans for TNG and sit at the wishbone consoles? Interesting. I guess that some of the more casual viewers would've assumed that he was a science officer of sorts anyway.

(As an aside, I'm not sure why the Ops bridge position in the TNG era is a gold shirt role – surely it has important 'command' functions on a starship? But then the divisional colour coding of uniforms in Trek doesn't make complete sense in all cases.)

I might be wrong but I think there were some make-up tests with Data weaing a blueshirt, however the make-up didn't go well with blue.

Of course one possible reason for the difference between TOS and TNG was increasing levels of automation so it was easier for one person to perform the job.

 

[soornge]

Was it one of those consoles at the edge of the bridge in TOS? We just didn't see it much as a main character never (or rarely?) manned them?

Were the functions shared between the Science and Engineering bridge stations? (Perhaps even the helm and navigation console too?)

Was it an off-bridge function?

Did Ops Management as a bridge position even exist then?

And is Kelvinverse Chekov actually an Ops officer?[/QUOTE
yes and yes but no texhnically chekov wasa tactical officer but on tos tng and enterprise they share the same duties on voyager harry was the opts officer

 

[soornge]

blond chick and work were the opts position but designated tactical as was chekov hence the reason sometimes he used the photon torpedo joy stick : sulu was the helmsmen hence george takei joke about being the best navigator both on land in space : plus the reason he got to use the view master sometimes that popped out of the dash : still waiting for car companies to add one to the base mustang : but yes there is an ops position also there is also always an officer of the day hence the clipboard captain kirk is always signing

 

[soornge]

one is manual photon control . one is the self destruct also enviroment control stellar cartography and one is an engineerinf bypass

 

[soornge]

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Bridge

 

[Unicron]

soornge, please consolidate your posts instead of posting multiple times in a row.