Oooh RTD You FIBBER! (Something's Coming...)

[StCoop]

In the new DWM RTD reveals that Special Project 3* which both he and Tennant had earlier claimed was cancelled has actually been made and that it's not a 'Children In Need' scene and he adds, "God knows what it'll do to canon!"

Start speculating wildly now.




*SP1 is the Doctor's appearance in TSJA. SP2 is "Dreamland".

 

[Cky]

Hmm... I'm guessing a multi-Doctor story of some sorts, as he's gone out of his way to mention canon.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

As long as it's not a graphic sex scene featuring The Doctor and Rose with The Doctor screaming out "I'm half-human!" the whole way through, I don't care about canon.

*crosses fingers for a Seven Doctor adventure*

 

[Timofnine]

Ooooooo interesting..... can't wait to find out what it is...

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Hmm... I'm guessing a multi-Doctor story of some sorts, as he's gone out of his way to mention canon.

It would be unlikely to involve the eighth Doctor, if this interview with McGann is to be believed.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Hmm... I'm guessing a multi-Doctor story of some sorts, as he's gone out of his way to mention canon.

It would be unlikely to involve the eighth Doctor, if this interview with McGann is to be believed.

Damnit! Why did you have to dash my hopes and dreams?

 

[Starkers]

Hmm... I'm guessing a multi-Doctor story of some sorts, as he's gone out of his way to mention canon.

But if its not for Children in Need...

If it is a multi-Doctor story then the level of secrecy needed to pull this off with so many actors invovled would be phenomenal!

 

[Allyn Gibson]

The mention of "canon" makes me wonder if it's something that would even involve Tennant, except perhaps peripherally.

My guess? It's the "young Doctor" spin-off that the BBC wanted, about him growing up on Gallifrey, that RTD then leveraged into Sarah Jane. I doubt it would be a full series, but a one-shot could be interesting.

 

[StCoop]

Hmm... I'm guessing a multi-Doctor story of some sorts, as he's gone out of his way to mention canon.

It would be unlikely to involve the eighth Doctor, if this interview with McGann is to be believed.

"It's highly unlikely, because since I walked off that set in 1996, no one's ever called me, I've never met these people, I've never been down to Cardiff and met what's his face, Russell T Davies (who masterminded Doctor Who's revival)."

That's another blooming great fib right there, as he was spotted having dinner with RTD last year, which (inevitably) sparked off another round of "McGann in Doctor Who" rumours.

 

[23skidoo]

In the new DWM RTD reveals that Special Project 3* which both he and Tennant had earlier claimed was cancelled has actually been made...

I wouldn't call that a fib. Projects get cancelled and restarted all the time. Plus, although it may not be a CiN scene it's still likely to be some sort of mini-episode as we'd have heard by now if any sort of full-length production had been mounted.

As far as "who knows what it'll do to canon" that doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot. Dimensions in Time isn't considered canon so there is precedent that not every BBC-produced Doctor Who story has to fall within regular continuity.

Alex

 

[The Nth Doctor]

The mention of "canon" makes me wonder if it's something that would even involve Tennant, except perhaps peripherally.

My guess? It's the "young Doctor" spin-off that the BBC wanted, about him growing up on Gallifrey, that RTD then leveraged into Sarah Jane. I doubt it would be a full series, but a one-shot could be interesting.

That makes sense and it certainly would be controversial. I must admit that I'm very hesitant on the idea but I'm willing to give it a try before I disown it.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

I don't know what it is but I do know what it will do to canon: nothing. There's no such thing as a Doctor Who canon.

 

[Starkers]

^Of course there's Doctor Who canon. It might be fluid and flexible but clearly there is something there defining what Dr Who is.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I refer you to my signature which works appropriately well for Doctor Who canon in addition to time travel.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

^Of course there's Doctor Who canon. It might be fluid and flexible but clearly there is something there defining what Dr Who is.

There is something. Calling that "canon" is a step too far, in my opinion.

I'm sure I don't have to link to Paul Cornell's excellent blog entry about canon, but I just can't help it.

 

[Starkers]

Well it is semantics, but for me the day he stops calling himself the doctor, says he isn't a Timelord from Gallifrey and trades his TARDIS in for a Delorean I will except there is no such thing as Dr Who canon. It's not fixed and bloated like Trek's but clearly it is there.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Well it is semantics, but for me the day he stops calling himself the doctor, says he isn't a Timelord from Gallifrey and trades his TARDIS in for a Delorean I will except there is no such thing as Dr Who canon. It's not fixed and bloated like Trek's but clearly it is there.

It is semantics, but words have meanings, so if we insist on using words, we might as well try and use them properly.

"Canon" roughly means "an officially recognized set of sacred books", and by extension "the works set in a fictional universe that are officially considered authentic", i.e., what happened and what didn't happen.

By that definition, the name "the Doctor", as well as "Timelords", "Gallifrey" and the TARDIS are not "canon". A much more appropriate term would be to see them as Doctor Who axioms.

 

[Sci]

As long as it's not a graphic sex scene featuring The Doctor and Rose with The Doctor screaming out "I'm half-human!" the whole way through, I don't care about canon.

Cut the "I'm half-Human!" part and I am so there.

ETA:

"Canon" is a meaningless concept. It refers to the body of information that non-canonical installments cannot contradict, and is predicated on the existence of installments specifically designated "non-canonical" that the canonical installments may contradict at their will. But in Doctor Who, new installments are as likely to contradict previous installments as anything else; the entire concept of "canon" and "not-canon" breaks down because the distinction just isn't made. There are TV shows and the TV movie and books, and they reference or don't reference one-another at the creators' whims.

 

[Starkers]

Well it is semantics, but for me the day he stops calling himself the doctor, says he isn't a Timelord from Gallifrey and trades his TARDIS in for a Delorean I will except there is no such thing as Dr Who canon. It's not fixed and bloated like Trek's but clearly it is there.

It is semantics, but words have meanings, so if we insist on using words, we might as well try and use them properly.

"Canon" roughly means "an officially recognized set of sacred books", and by extension "the works set in a fictional universe that are officially considered authentic", i.e., what happened and what didn't happen.

By that definition, the name "the Doctor", as well as "Timelords", "Gallifrey" and the TARDIS are not "canon". A much more appropriate term would be to see them as Doctor Who axioms.

potatoes/ potartoes I can live with calling them axons...I mean Axioms!

 

[The Wormhole]

As long as it's not a graphic sex scene featuring The Doctor and Rose with The Doctor screaming out "I'm half-human!" the whole way through, I don't care about canon.

That would rock so much!