Official Details?
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Vulcanian said:
Has anyone been a little annoyed at the lack of offcial details in ST:XI?
Correct me if I'm wrong, we don't know who the villians are or any plot details for that matter. And it is geting close to movie time.
Why Paramount? Why?
And you think there's an obligation by Paramount to issue a press release with these details why exactly?
Most movies don't for the sake of the fans issue such details as the idea is to learn about them onscreen first.
I mean, did they do what you ask a month before "The Dark Knight" began filming? Spill the plot and details of the whole movie right off the bat. This makes no sense.
Sharr
Vulcanian said:
Why Paramount? Why?
The entire scripts for "Insurrection" and "Nemesis" were downloadable from the Internet before filming was even finished. Didn't help those films one bit.
A little suspense and mystery can be good for stirring the publicity machine in the early days.
Sharr Khan said:
Vulcanian said:
Has anyone been a little annoyed at the lack of offcial details in ST:XI?
Correct me if I'm wrong, we don't know who the villians are or any plot details for that matter. And it is geting close to movie time.
Why Paramount? Why?
And you think there's an obligation by Paramount to issue a press release with these details why exactly?
Most movies don't for the sake of the fans issue such details as the idea is to learn about them onscreen first.
I mean, did they do what you ask a month before "The Dark Knight" began filming? Spill the plot and details of the whole movie right off the bat. This makes no sense.
Sharr
Nobody wants the entire plot. Just something a little more than a poster that says Star Trek and 12/25/08 on it. They did a fair job with the sepia tone in Photoshop, but it would be nice to know *something*. I don't expect to see it because I think they're afraid of the fanbois and the power of internet nerdom to convince hordes of people that a movie is garbage before its release.
Nope, this desire to have the details is purely a product of the internet and fans have become used to having spoilers at the click of a mouse.
Most movies don't get nice summery of who the villain is or the basic premise until just right before they hit the screen. Why should a Star Trek movie be different? There's no obligation beyond the ad campaign and that won't start until after the cameras stop rolling for Paramount to tell us anything about the film.
See it one thing for say Trekmovie.com to do some reporting, follow some leads and spill info that I'm all for but Paramount should be telling us anything but the barest (that is very very little - such as casting as it happens) about the movie yet.
Agian, what actual details aside from "leaks" do we know of the new Indy movie? Not much... what we do know comes from leaked info not from the studio telling us - of course one can assume Shia was permitted to spill the title but then they probably thought the time was right to do so.
I don't think "nerdom" has that much power...
Much to early for that yet. What's wrong with waiting until they at least cut together a trailer?
Sharr
There's really no need to hurry up and announce details about the movie. It hasn't even been cast yet. The Batman Begins sequel is filming and other than casting and a few details not much is known yet and won't be until we get a proper teaser or trailer. Same for ST XI I hope. We knew too much about the previous Trek films long before the trailers came out. Keeping us more in the dark will be better in the long run. I sincerely hope a script for the movie is never leaked.
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I don't want the script or anything like that, but a cast list and an idea of what the story is about would be nice.
The poster MIGHT have meant start of shooting, which is getting rather close.
Interestingly, a while back Quinto said he hadn't read the entire script. And in a recent interview Yelchin said he hasn't read it, yet.
I'd love some leaks, though. Good ones. Reliable ones. I'm one of the few (apparently) who LIKES spoilers.
I like them too, but in moderation. I'm really hoping the script isn't floating around at any point before release. When the Nemesis script leaked I was able to hold off for all of three days before I caved in and read the damn thing. I'd like to be going into this one relatively fresh.
Rest assured, once production begins and it becomes a requirement that hundreds of production people have copies of the script in order to do their jobs, we'll have more details than anyone really wants. Until then, kudos to J.J. Abrams and company for managing to keep such a tight lid on the project and actually build some suspense and anticipation. I, for one, think it's a refreshing change.
I don't usually follow movies in pre production phase, but usually for computer games (which I follow more often), they'll give you character artwork, and the names of most of the characters months before the first release date. Movies may be somewhat different, and if so, don't take my being curious as a sign of ADHD or something.
Besides, it's a good thing right -- people don't generally want to know about stuff they think is bad.
Well, done right, a leak or some character information can build suspense. You know that Checkov is in the movie, but how important is he? Does he survive (given the nonlinear romours), Why do we have both old and young Spock? Showing a drawing of some bizaare looking ship might build interest as well, or an exotic planetscape. Leaks can build interest, so they're not always bad.
Well, they give the stories negative publicity on their blogs, talk about it with other nerds, I think it would have some impact.
What's wrong with a drawing that shows the bad guy in sillohette or his tricked out spaceship? Not his name, not why he wants to kill and dismember the heros, just some vaguely ominous looking guy and a ship. With no comment by Abrams?
In that case its only power to influence other nerds - but then its always like that that'd be a niche influencing a niche - niches aren't going to make or break this film.
Interest is always a good thing, just don't get in an uproar if those in the know feel like keeping things close to the vest.
Seems to be happening regardless of Paramount's official say on the matter - I think that's what Nimoy and Quinto are doing and to another extent Shatner either intentionally or not...
Nothing if they choose do it - clearly they've elected to not do that... its not a failing on their part as the OP infers at the top of the thread.
Sharr
What's right with it? How frequently is it done as part of film publicity two months before principal photography begins and well over a year before the film's release?
A casting list has already been released, several months ago: Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scott, Sulu, Uhura. Describing for agents the talent types they wanted to audition.
Chekov wasn't on it, but his casting has now already been announced. And we know that two incarnations of Spock will appear. That's quite a bit of info so far.
