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NuWho series 1

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I became a regular Who viewer only recently, with Matt Smith's Doctor. I had seen some of the earlier nuWho episodes before (never any of the original Who), but never gotten into it. However, a couple of years ago I tuned into the Series 5 premiere and have been watching ever since. Now I've been going back and watching nuWho from the pilot episode on Netflix. Just finished the first series (and started the second) and here are some thoughts. If you lot aren't sick of discussing these old episodes by now, I'd appreciate your input. Please no spoilers for series 2-4.

-First and foremost, in the end I must say I liked the first series overall and grew to accept Eccleston as the Doctor. As I said, I had only seen a handful of the Eccleston and Tennant episodes before, so for me Smith was the Doctor. However, somewhere during Series 1 Eccleston became his own Doctor. Good!

-Even though I liked the series as a whole, a lot of the episodes were so-so at best. Some of them were just too cheesy and full of plot holes. The Slitheen double parter comes to mind. Made no sense to me whatsoever and just seemed to be an excuse to have people unzip their heads over and over and over (and over) again.

-Father's Day and The Empty Child were two of the episodes I had seen back when they originally aired (the others I remember seeing being The Christmas Invasion, Planet of the Dead, parts of Boom Town and The Next Doctor, and perhaps one or two Tennant episodes I don't know the name of), and I wasn't very impressed with them then. Certainly not enough to keep watching the show. This time around I think they were two of the best episodes of the first series. Perhaps the rest of the series was just so bad that these stood out, perhaps my tastes and/or expectations changed over the last 6 years, or perhaps it's easier to appreciate these stories if you're already familiar with the characters. Whatever may be the case, there were some good episodes in series one, amongst all the cheese.

-Speaking of cheese: life or death versions of Big Brother and The Weakest Link? Really...? If this was some ham fisted message of how reality tv and cheap game shows are ruining tv, then I sympathize with the message, but I don't think badly written scripted shows do much to alleviate the pain.

-The ending of the season was a bit disappointing. I had heard friends of mine, who had been watching the show all these years, talking about how well executed the arcs on the show were. They must have been talking about the Tennant years (no spoilers please!), because the Bad Wolf 'arc' (if you can even call it that) was highly disappointing. What exactly was the purpose of all this? So deus ex machina super-Rose scattered these words throughout space and time for what reason exactly? When she was back on earth with the non-functioning Tardis, how did seeing these words help her? What, she couldn't have figured out that the Tardis, the only thing she knew of capable of time travel, would be her only hope to return to the future to help the Doctor, without seeing "Bad Wolf" graffiti? Made no sense whatsoever to me. Unless this story isn't over and we'll see more Bad Wolf in future (i.e. series 2-4, no spoilers please!) episodes, this doesn't rank very high with me on the scale of well executed arcs.

-Edit: A bit more moaning about the big finale. Why did they spoil the fact that the Daleks were the big enemy in the next-time-on segment at the end of Boom Town? And then continued to pretend that it was supposed to be mystery for the first half or so of Bad Wolf? Bad communication between marketing and production, I suppose. Also, it was a bit cheap and easy to have the Daleks escape their apparent genocide at the hands of the Time Lords in the Time War so easily ("O yes, I escaped. Yes, even though you were so certain that no Dalek escaped, I did. That's it. Nothing to see now. Move along, move along. And worship me.")

-I like how they're setting up Torchwood. I've watched series 3 and 4 and scattered episodes of series 1 and 2 of that show, and it is nice to see all the elements being introduced here. The introduction of Jack in The Empty Child, the Cardiff rift in Boom Town (although, if I understood correctly, this is something from an earlier original Who episode?), the Torchwood institute in The Christmas Invasion. I like how all the pieces are presented slowly and naturally, instead of being all packed into one look-here-is-an-obvious-pilot-episode-for-another-show episode as these things usually go. I don't know if it was planned this way from the start, but with hindsight, I like it. Looking forward to see where this is going.

-All in all I'm liking the show. I think it's been improving hugely over the first series and I can only hope it'll get even better from here on. Just watched the first episodes of the second series (The Christmas Invasion and New Earth) and although they weren't earth-shattering, they were quite well done for what they were supposed to be. They also seem to be setting the stage for bigger things to come. I'm looking forward to watching the next three series. (Again, can't stress this enough, please no spoilers.)
 
The rift is actually from The Unquiet Dead, the third episode of the first season. It's the one with Charles Dickens.


It also features Eve Myles in her first Whoniverse role as Gwenyth, and she of course plays Gwen in Torchwood. So that's another link.

The Eccleston season IMO is where they were kind of finding what worked and what didn't as it were, the FX and picture quality improve as the show goes on. It's generally agreed that Eccleston is one of the stronger points of the season, but things like the Slitheen are not. As time went on spoilers from future episodes were largely absent, and bigger cliffhangers had no preview whatsoever.


The Daleks escaping from being totally destroyed is something that happened quite often in the classic series as well.
 
The rift is actually from The Unquiet Dead, the third episode of the first season. It's the one with Charles Dickens.

O yes, so it is. I had forgotten that, since it has been a few months since I watched the first few episodes. Thanks! So, was all this Torchwood stuff planned or did they just use it when Torchwood came around?

It also features Eve Myles in her first Whoniverse role as Gwenyth, and she of course plays Gwen in Torchwood. So that's another link.

Yes, I did notice that. Different character though, but nice to see her.
 
Toshiko likewise appears in Aliens of London as well.


I think Torchwood started to develop shortly after season I of WHO was a sucess.
 
^ Which means it really wasn't Tosh, but it's easy to believe that it is. :)

Speaking of cheese: life or death versions of Big Brother and The Weakest Link? Really...? If this was some ham fisted message of how reality tv and cheap game shows are ruining tv, then I sympathize with the message, but I don't think badly written scripted shows do much to alleviate the pain.
I actually enjoyed this episode a lot. It was amusing to watch the Doctor's reactions to being in the Big Brother house, and his comment just before the opening titles was a hoot; I think it was something like "You've got to be kidding me" -- which I'm sure was the same thing a lot of fans were thinking too. :D

And Rose's giddy reaction to being on the Weakest Link, at first thinking it was all a big lark, then realizing it's deadly serious, was fun to watch.

And of course the episode introduced us to Linda-with-a-Y, one of the best companions who never was.
 
Toshiko likewise appears in Aliens of London as well.


I think Torchwood started to develop shortly after season I of WHO was a sucess.

Yes, and we get to see those nice legs of hers.
And Torchwood was the anagram for Doctor Who, to keep the production secret until 'Rose' came out.
 
^ Which means it really wasn't Tosh, but it's easy to believe that it is. :)

Speaking of cheese: life or death versions of Big Brother and The Weakest Link? Really...? If this was some ham fisted message of how reality tv and cheap game shows are ruining tv, then I sympathize with the message, but I don't think badly written scripted shows do much to alleviate the pain.
I actually enjoyed this episode a lot. It was amusing to watch the Doctor's reactions to being in the Big Brother house, and his comment just before the opening titles was a hoot; I think it was something like "You've got to be kidding me" -- which I'm sure was the same thing a lot of fans were thinking too. :D

And Rose's giddy reaction to being on the Weakest Link, at first thinking it was all a big lark, then realizing it's deadly serious, was fun to watch.

And of course the episode introduced us to Linda-with-a-Y, one of the best companions who never was.

I didn't like it much, the basic notion made sense but that somehow future humans would base all their gameshows on British tv from the early 21st century is just daft, one element of RTD's concept I wasn't always happy with was the notion that modern viewers are so thick they can only understand things if you relate them to modern day...

Vengence on Varos is a much better take on reality tv.

Eccelston's face upon realising where he is is priceless though!
 
I appreciate your perspective because that's exactly how I am experiencing the show - almost backwards. It is surprisingly enjoyable that way.
 
^ Which means it really wasn't Tosh, but it's easy to believe that it is. :)

Speaking of cheese: life or death versions of Big Brother and The Weakest Link? Really...? If this was some ham fisted message of how reality tv and cheap game shows are ruining tv, then I sympathize with the message, but I don't think badly written scripted shows do much to alleviate the pain.
I actually enjoyed this episode a lot. It was amusing to watch the Doctor's reactions to being in the Big Brother house, and his comment just before the opening titles was a hoot; I think it was something like "You've got to be kidding me" -- which I'm sure was the same thing a lot of fans were thinking too. :D

And Rose's giddy reaction to being on the Weakest Link, at first thinking it was all a big lark, then realizing it's deadly serious, was fun to watch.

And of course the episode introduced us to Linda-with-a-Y, one of the best companions who never was.

I didn't like it much, the basic notion made sense but that somehow future humans would base all their gameshows on British tv from the early 21st century is just daft, one element of RTD's concept I wasn't always happy with was the notion that modern viewers are so thick they can only understand things if you relate them to modern day...
I don't see it as RTD thinking that modern viewers are thick. I think it's more that he loves spectacle, Big Brother and The Weakest Link were two incredibly successful shows at the time so using them gave the episodes a zeitgeisty appeal.

There's also the thing that using reality/quiz formats that the viewer is already likely to be familiar with means that you can keep the pace of the story up without having to stop to explain what's happening to the audience.
 
Oh I get the logic, I just didn't like it. It wasn't the worst episode of the first series but far from the best (though Nine's little speech to Rose and the Daleks at the end is bloody brilliant!)
 
Oh I get the logic, I just didn't like it. It wasn't the worst episode of the first series but far from the best (though Nine's little speech to Rose and the Daleks at the end is bloody brilliant!)

Well he did also put in ideas of a few future reality shows, just the contemporary ones were used up front.
 
I started my first rewatch of nuwho recently. I'm really enjoying it now that I know where it goes. I like 9 a lot, prob more than 11.

One thing I noticed is watching Mickey now, I love him, he's great. Before he annoyed me because I wanted rose and the doc to be alone. But now I really like Mickey.

And captain Jack is waaaaaay more flamboyant than I remember. I just finished bad wolf and he was really prancing around that satellite.
 
I started my first rewatch of nuwho recently. I'm really enjoying it now that I know where it goes. I like 9 a lot, prob more than 11.

One thing I noticed is watching Mickey now, I love him, he's great. Before he annoyed me because I wanted rose and the doc to be alone. But now I really like Mickey.

And captain Jack is waaaaaay more flamboyant than I remember. I just finished bad wolf and he was really prancing around that satellite.
Heh, speaking of Mickey, I've just started rewatching Sarah Jane Adventures S1, so I can catch up on watching S2-5 (Which never aired here in the States :( ) and Clyde really, really, reminds me that he could be an Alternate Universe Mickey in his younger years, where he was exposed to all the Alien stuff much earlier in life with Sarah Jane.

I'll probably start my NuWho rewatch once I get through all the Sarah Janes (Perhaps Troughton will be slid in between, since I know very little of Troughton)
 
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