"Nu-Mok Time" - What are the chances?

[Logical Leopard]

What do you think the chances are of seeing elements of Amok Time in the next movie? I don't think they'd make it the whole movie, but it'd make an interesting subplot:

The Enterprise stops briefly at a Federation Outpost to take a few dozen Vulcan survivors a little closer to the new Vulcan Homeworld so they can rejoin their fellow countrymen. One of them is T'Pring (Or Nu'Pring?), a research scientist.

[Nu'Pring casing call. Megan Fox? Meagan Goode?]

As soon as Spock sees her (convienently while with Uhura), you can see that there's a visible reaction (heavier breathing, nervous looking, sweat maybe). Kirk assigns Spock to make them feel more comfortable on the Enterprise, but he seems reluctant. After Kirk finds out that Spock's been shirking his duties with the Vulcans, he confronts him, and Spock shouts at him. Only losing his composure for a minute, he explains to Kirk that Nu'Pring is his fiance, and that he feels uncomfortable interacting with her due to his relationship with Uhura. Kirk silently marvels at the fact that Spock gets a hot girl each movie, and then states that although Spock still has to liason with the Vulcans, he understands if he does only the bare minimum.

[insert several scenes with Vulcan refugees, complaining about accomodations, complaining about human stench, playing Vulcan dodgeball, etc.]

Spock decides to man up and tell Uhura what's going on between him and Nu'Pring. Uhura tells Spock she understands (she doesnt, and is clearly disturbed) and asks who he wants to be with. Spock is no dummy, and says her. Uhura tells him that maybe he should go and talk to Nu'Pring, and break it off.

Spock reluctantly agrees, but of course puts it off. Unfortunately, Nu'Pring spoils his putting off of things when she puts in a request to Spock to have access to a science lab on the Enterprise so she can continue analyzing data from one of her experiments. Spock shows her the science lab nervously, and Nu'Pring starts asking questions about their relationship, which she hasn't done to this point. She throws some low blow about him slumming with humans:

Nu'Pring "I see how you react to the Human female. There is a significant connection between you. Have you been among them long enough to actually desire their kind? How do you stand their shameful displays of emotion? Their stench? It is only logical perhaps...you are your father's son. And of course, your mother's..."

Spock, who has been getting visibly more and more upset as she speaks, smacks her, still looking angry afterward, but utterly shocked at what he's done. Nu'Pring wipes blood away from her lip, and says:

"Perhaps you are not the one for me. My blood runs green. I question the color of yours. You probably don't know what to do with a real woman anyway...."

Of course this is a cue for them to both jump on each other. Passionate kissing, ripping of tunics, destruction of equipment around them....

Then in walks Nu'Pring's research assistant....NU STONN!!! (Didn't see that coming, did you?), followed by Kirk, who is showing him where he can put his box of hydrospanners, because Spock isn't answering his communicator. Nu Stonn is cheesed. Kirk is too.

Next scene. Kirk reads Spock the riot act for not being able to keep his hands off the refugees, and acting like a common...well, <i>him</i>, and puts him off duty for medical observation, because he's been really acting weird. Bones scans him, and finds some anomalous readings that he doesn't understand, because he didn't have many Vulcan clients in Mississippi. His new chief nurse, the bright and promising Christine Chapel, attempts to help him with the task of deciphering the data. Who of course, thinks Spock is easy on the eyes, so throwing herself into the research is not a problem.

Spock gets progressively worse, to the point that he's whipping Plomeek soup around the Sickbay, and assaulting the staff. McCoy states that he's a doctor, not a headshrink, nor a mixed martial arts fighter, and declares that Spock is going to have to be confined to the brig under guard while they figure out what's wrong with him. Surprisingly, none of the Vulcans are volunteering any information on what's going on with Spock.

Spock, being the most intelligent and resourceful person on the ship (and also having pointy ears), breaks out of the brig....

Meanwhile, whatever the main plot of the movie is moves ahead. When they finally realize that Spock is gone, Kirk, McCoy, and Uhura search for him and find him in a cargo bay, surrounded by Vulcans, looking vagely like something out of Fight Club. He's facing Nu-Stonn, who appears to be his challenger. [Casting call for Nu-Stonn. Channing Tatum, ala "Fighting"?] And who is the Tyler Durden of this whole affair?

Nu'Pau!!!!!!! (You saw that coming, didn't you?)

Several burly Vulcans grab Kirk & Co. Kirk asks what is going on, and is told by Nu'Pau:

"What thee are about to see, comes down from the time of the beginning; without change. This is the Vulcan heart. This is the Vulcan soul. This is our being."

Kirk: What? What are you talking about?

Nu'Pau: Thee first rule of Koon-ut-kal-if-fee. No one talks about Koon-ut-kal-if-fee....

Haw, just kidding. Nu'Pring welcomes Kirk to her "wedding" and explains briefly what's going on. Kirk states that she can't do that on his starship. Nu'Pring says that as an endangered species, his first duty as a Starfleet Officer is to facilitate their survival. This cargo bay brawl is part solemn ceremony, part government protected mating grounds. Kirk, clearly irritated, states that it's his ship, so it's his mating grounds, and he'll determine who mates on them.

Nu'Pau sez: Thee has a point. Whoever owns the grounds of koon-ut-kal-if-fee, has rights.

Kirk: What rights?

Nu'Pau: The right to pick the challenger.

Kirk: Alright, I pick myself!

Nu'Pau: Very well. You must prepare now to fight....to the death!!!

Kirk:........


The classic fight. Bones slips Kirk a hypospray of "adrenaline" because there's an unfair advantage. Kirk "dies". Spock cries. Kirk gets better. THE END!!!!

So, what do you think?

 

[Kaziarl]

I dunno if they would do it in the movie, but if we do get a series then maybe. I will say one thing about Nu'Pring, and something I kind of noticed during Amok Time. Do vulcan women seem to hide their emotions a little less then males? The only one that kept the usual vulcan cool seemed to be T'Pol. Saavik was half romulan from what I remember (Although there is debate as to weather it's cannon.) So thats understandable. The Vulcan woman from TUC definately seemed to wear her heart on her sleeves compared to most vulcans. Any other examples anyone can think of?

 

[Logical Leopard]

Yeah, I don't know it they'd do a remake, mini or otherwise of Amok Time, but I think if they make enough movies, Pon Farr is definately going to come up, and if it does, there's a chance of at least seeing some sort of homage to it.

About the Vulcan women, I think it's a matter of their surroundings. Saavik and Valeris were both Starfleet Officers, and were probably trying to "fit in" with their coworkers. Spock is the reverse, because he's always had to justify himself as a Vulcan, so he's going to act ultra-Vulcan. Saavik and Valeris (assuming they're full vulcans, which I think they are in canon) are more free to be less Vulcan, ironically, because they are more Vulcan, if that makes any sense.

And about the series, I don't see that happening anytime soon. A sucessful movie is one thing. Investment into a television series, where you may have to use other actors, is quite another.

 

[Campe]

I personally like the idea of taking the "Amok Time" and putting it on end. What if T'Pring was killed in the destruction of Vulcan? How does that affect Spock and what is it going to do when Pon Farr comes around and there is seemingly no way to deal with it? Can that support a whole movie that will keep audiences interested? Not so much. But, I like the idea for a B plot.

 

[Kaziarl]

(assuming they're full vulcans, which I think they are in canon)

Thats actually where the debate comes from. In the original script, and in the novelization of TWOK, Saavik is stated as being half vulcan/half romulan. They cut the scene from the movie, although I'm not sure if it got added to the directors cut or not since I haven't seen it. Later it just dropped to half-vulcan, and an unknown other half. Memory Alpha goes into a bit more detail about it.

 

[Jayson]

I could see them adding this element to the story because it's a chance to have Spock emotional and violent and it also would play a function in what they decide to do with the Spock/Uhura romance. I don't think the movie would completely revolve around this story because it means Kirk doesn't have much of a function in this story unless your just going to remake "Amok Time" which is something I don't think anyone wants to see them doing.

Jason

 

[Logical Leopard]

I personally like the idea of taking the "Amok Time" and putting it on end. What if T'Pring was killed in the destruction of Vulcan? How does that affect Spock and what is it going to do when Pon Farr comes around and there is seemingly no way to deal with it? Can that support a whole movie that will keep audiences interested? Not so much. But, I like the idea for a B plot.

If T'Pring is killed, I hope they don't do anything with Uhura and Spock. As I've posted before, I love the relationship, but I don't think there's anyway to do a plotline with Uhura and Pon Farr that doesn't seem thematically cheap. The "I'll die if I don't" romantic appeal is so cliched, that actually seeing it played out in a cause where the male COULD die would be equally stupid.

As for T'Pring's odds of surviving, I'd say they were high. The people that survive catastrophies in movies, books, and television are always the ones that will cause the protagonists difficulty.

If they were to do an Amok Time plot sort of like I did it above, with it occuring on the ship, it would work in a major film, because you can have a bigger A plot in which the crew is trying to accomplish some greater goal, while Spock's life is unraveling. It'd be cool towards the end of the movie if you have Kirk "dead", Spock distraught, Uhura distraught, and who left in charge?

Captain Scotty! with Bean as second in command!

 

[Temis the Vorta]

My vote for T'Pring is Kristin Bell in a black wig. Time for a rematch!

Seriously. Nobody plays bitchy like Bell.

 

[caisson2delta]

Morena Baccarin might fill the role as well.

 

[Magickthise]

Cat fight between Uhura and T'Pring? I'd love that!

 

[Kaziarl]

I personally like the idea of taking the "Amok Time" and putting it on end. What if T'Pring was killed in the destruction of Vulcan? How does that affect Spock and what is it going to do when Pon Farr comes around and there is seemingly no way to deal with it? Can that support a whole movie that will keep audiences interested? Not so much. But, I like the idea for a B plot.

If T'Pring is killed, I hope they don't do anything with Uhura and Spock. As I've posted before, I love the relationship, but I don't think there's anyway to do a plotline with Uhura and Pon Farr that doesn't seem thematically cheap. The "I'll die if I don't" romantic appeal is so cliched, that actually seeing it played out in a cause where the male COULD die would be equally stupid.

As for T'Pring's odds of surviving, I'd say they were high. The people that survive catastrophies in movies, books, and television are always the ones that will cause the protagonists difficulty.

If they were to do an Amok Time plot sort of like I did it above, with it occuring on the ship, it would work in a major film, because you can have a bigger A plot in which the crew is trying to accomplish some greater goal, while Spock's life is unraveling. It'd be cool towards the end of the movie if you have Kirk "dead", Spock distraught, Uhura distraught, and who left in charge?

Captain Scotty! with Bean as second in command!

From what i've seen in movies, they don't do a very good job at doing multi-lined plots. They just have the main plot, maybe a little romance on the side, and thats about it. Something like Amok Time going on next to the movies main plot might not work unless its dumbed down to one of those "side of fries" plots.

 

[Timewalker]

What do you think the chances are of seeing elements of Amok Time in the next movie? I don't think they'd make it the whole movie, but it'd make an interesting subplot:

The Enterprise stops briefly at a Federation Outpost to take a few dozen Vulcan survivors a little closer to the new Vulcan Homeworld so they can rejoin their fellow countrymen. One of them is T'Pring (Or Nu'Pring?), a research scientist.

[Nu'Pring casing call. Megan Fox? Meagan Goode?]

As soon as Spock sees her (convienently while with Uhura), you can see that there's a visible reaction (heavier breathing, nervous looking, sweat maybe). Kirk assigns Spock to make them feel more comfortable on the Enterprise, but he seems reluctant. After Kirk finds out that Spock's been shirking his duties with the Vulcans, he confronts him, and Spock shouts at him. Only losing his composure for a minute, he explains to Kirk that Nu'Pring is his fiance, and that he feels uncomfortable interacting with her due to his relationship with Uhura. Kirk silently marvels at the fact that Spock gets a hot girl each movie, and then states that although Spock still has to liason with the Vulcans, he understands if he does only the bare minimum.

[insert several scenes with Vulcan refugees, complaining about accomodations, complaining about human stench, playing Vulcan dodgeball, etc.]

Spock decides to man up and tell Uhura what's going on between him and Nu'Pring. Uhura tells Spock she understands (she doesnt, and is clearly disturbed) and asks who he wants to be with. Spock is no dummy, and says her. Uhura tells him that maybe he should go and talk to Nu'Pring, and break it off.

Spock reluctantly agrees, but of course puts it off. Unfortunately, Nu'Pring spoils his putting off of things when she puts in a request to Spock to have access to a science lab on the Enterprise so she can continue analyzing data from one of her experiments. Spock shows her the science lab nervously, and Nu'Pring starts asking questions about their relationship, which she hasn't done to this point. She throws some low blow about him slumming with humans:

Nu'Pring "I see how you react to the Human female. There is a significant connection between you. Have you been among them long enough to actually desire their kind? How do you stand their shameful displays of emotion? Their stench? It is only logical perhaps...you are your father's son. And of course, your mother's..."

Spock, who has been getting visibly more and more upset as she speaks, smacks her, still looking angry afterward, but utterly shocked at what he's done. Nu'Pring wipes blood away from her lip, and says:

"Perhaps you are not the one for me. My blood runs green. I question the color of yours. You probably don't know what to do with a real woman anyway...."

Of course this is a cue for them to both jump on each other. Passionate kissing, ripping of tunics, destruction of equipment around them....

Then in walks Nu'Pring's research assistant....NU STONN!!! (Didn't see that coming, did you?), followed by Kirk, who is showing him where he can put his box of hydrospanners, because Spock isn't answering his communicator. Nu Stonn is cheesed. Kirk is too.

Next scene. Kirk reads Spock the riot act for not being able to keep his hands off the refugees, and acting like a common...well, <i>him</i>, and puts him off duty for medical observation, because he's been really acting weird. Bones scans him, and finds some anomalous readings that he doesn't understand, because he didn't have many Vulcan clients in Mississippi. His new chief nurse, the bright and promising Christine Chapel, attempts to help him with the task of deciphering the data. Who of course, thinks Spock is easy on the eyes, so throwing herself into the research is not a problem.

Spock gets progressively worse, to the point that he's whipping Plomeek soup around the Sickbay, and assaulting the staff. McCoy states that he's a doctor, not a headshrink, nor a mixed martial arts fighter, and declares that Spock is going to have to be confined to the brig under guard while they figure out what's wrong with him. Surprisingly, none of the Vulcans are volunteering any information on what's going on with Spock.

Spock, being the most intelligent and resourceful person on the ship (and also having pointy ears), breaks out of the brig....

Meanwhile, whatever the main plot of the movie is moves ahead. When they finally realize that Spock is gone, Kirk, McCoy, and Uhura search for him and find him in a cargo bay, surrounded by Vulcans, looking vagely like something out of Fight Club. He's facing Nu-Stonn, who appears to be his challenger. [Casting call for Nu-Stonn. Channing Tatum, ala "Fighting"?] And who is the Tyler Durden of this whole affair?

Nu'Pau!!!!!!! (You saw that coming, didn't you?)

Several burly Vulcans grab Kirk & Co. Kirk asks what is going on, and is told by Nu'Pau:

"What thee are about to see, comes down from the time of the beginning; without change. This is the Vulcan heart. This is the Vulcan soul. This is our being."

Kirk: What? What are you talking about?

Nu'Pau: Thee first rule of Koon-ut-kal-if-fee. No one talks about Koon-ut-kal-if-fee....

Haw, just kidding. Nu'Pring welcomes Kirk to her "wedding" and explains briefly what's going on. Kirk states that she can't do that on his starship. Nu'Pring says that as an endangered species, his first duty as a Starfleet Officer is to facilitate their survival. This cargo bay brawl is part solemn ceremony, part government protected mating grounds. Kirk, clearly irritated, states that it's his ship, so it's his mating grounds, and he'll determine who mates on them.

Nu'Pau sez: Thee has a point. Whoever owns the grounds of koon-ut-kal-if-fee, has rights.

Kirk: What rights?

Nu'Pau: The right to pick the challenger.

Kirk: Alright, I pick myself!

Nu'Pau: Very well. You must prepare now to fight....to the death!!!

Kirk:........


The classic fight. Bones slips Kirk a hypospray of "adrenaline" because there's an unfair advantage. Kirk "dies". Spock cries. Kirk gets better. THE END!!!!

So, what do you think?

Now THIS is a nuTrek movie I'd watch!

 

[I am not Spock]

Elements of Amok Time in an Abramsverse sequel would be great, IMO. Some of the interactions between nuKirk and the 'emotionally compromised' nuSpock in Trek XI reminded me of a cross between 'Amok Time' and 'This Side Of Paradise'. More of that in a sequel would be great fun.

 

[JewelsNeeJulian]

let's give another Pon Farr storyline a miss shall we? It lead to so many bad plots in the Old Verse....

 

[Johnnymuffintop]

I am REALLY shocked there isn't a video online with shots from the movie of the Kirk/Spock fight edited with the Mock Time music.

SOMEONE MAKE IT HAPPEN! I know at least 5% of us own a pirated copy of the film.