Novels/audios question

[EJA]

Does the SJA story Death of the Doctor contradict the 11th Doctor novel Apollo 23 and/or the SJA audio The Shadow People? I've read that the former involves a secret military base on the Moon (The TV story mentions a UNIT base on the Moon), and the latter has the gang off on an adventure to Snowdonia (The locale for the aforementioned TV story).

 

[VDCNI]

Well it might do - I just don't think they really care if they contradict the novels or audios.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Does the SJA story Death of the Doctor contradict the 11th Doctor novel Apollo 23 and/or the SJA audio The Shadow People? I've read that the former involves a secret military base on the Moon (The TV story mentions a UNIT base on the Moon), and the latter has the gang off on an adventure to Snowdonia (The locale for the aforementioned TV story).

Apollo 23 involves a secret NASA moonbase. Death of the Doctor doesn't explicitly contradict that.

UNIT's moonbase is first mentioned in Death Comes to Time; the Brig leads UNIT's spacefleet from there into battle against the invasion force of General Tannis.

 

[EJA]

Wouldn't UNIT be aware of the NASA moonbase though? And what about Sarah Jane's two trips to Snowdon?

 

[diankra]

Just to complicate things, there is a moonbase in 2003 in the Virgin book Eternity Weeps.
It's staffed by a mix of co-operative humans and Silurians, Liz Shaw among them, and Liz dies towards the end of the novel...

 

[Guy Gardener]

Um. Tenth Planet? Hartnels last story. The Moonbase controlling earths weather in the radically distant and far off future of 1986.

 

[Stevil2001]

Guy, I think you're conflating The Tenth Planet, which takes place in Antarctica, with The Moonbase, which takes place in the early 21st century (2020s?).

 

[Guy Gardener]

This is what I get for relying on 25 year old memories of reading novelisations.

 

[EJA]

The Moonbase is set in the year 2070, and the Graviton (the device controlling Earth's weather) is stated to have been activated twenty years previously. By the time of The Wheel in Space though (which I reckon is set after The Moonbase due to the level of technology), Earth has gone back to needing space stations to monitor the planet's weather, which wouldn't be necessary if they could control the weather. Oh well....

Has anyone here listened to The Shadow People?

 

[23skidoo]

UNIT's moonbase is first mentioned in Death Comes to Time; the Brig leads UNIT's spacefleet from there into battle against the invasion force of General Tannis.

One thing worth noting here is that while the BBC has never made a firm edict as to what constitutes official canon (unlike Paramount and Star Trek), there are a few exceptions. One is the Scream of the Shalka webcast with Richard E. Grant as the Ninth Doctor, and I think Death Comes to Time is the other, due to its ending (but someone please correct me if I'm wrong). So whether the UNIT base mentioned in that one actually counts is a matter of debate. Otherwise it could be argued that UNIT could have sent people to investigate when that hospital ended up on the moon in "Smith & Jones".

Alex

 

[diankra]

UNIT's moonbase is first mentioned in Death Comes to Time; the Brig leads UNIT's spacefleet from there into battle against the invasion force of General Tannis.

One thing worth noting here is that while the BBC has never made a firm edict as to what constitutes official canon (unlike Paramount and Star Trek), there are a few exceptions. One is the Scream of the Shalka webcast with Richard E. Grant as the Ninth Doctor, and I think Death Comes to Time is the other, due to its ending (but someone please correct me if I'm wrong). So whether the UNIT base mentioned in that one actually counts is a matter of debate. Otherwise it could be argued that UNIT could have sent people to investigate when that hospital ended up on the moon in "Smith & Jones".

Alex

Death Comes to Time and Scream of the Shalka are both problematical continuity-wise (as in massively more than all the rest of it).
The book The Gallifrey Chronicles provides a hint of a get out when Marnel turns a time tracker on the 8th Doctor and says (paraphrase) "How can anyone be alive with a timestream this messed up? He's got three ninth incarnations!!!"