I think I already answered this? People watch shows like Weeds and Breaking Bad and The Sopranos not necessarily because they like or approve of the protagonist, but because they find it compelling to watch the protagonist's journey.
Most of us should. It was quite easy to do so from the first episode when he justifiably double-slapped Joffrey (the Trelane of Westeros). It's a rarely-used but satisfying tactic Ving Rhames previously used on Wesley Snipes. That's UNDISPUTED....and possibly out of print.
For those who like Tyrion far more than Tony Soprano, I could see why. That sort of crossover, of course, would blow multiple minds.
By this point, my tolerance for villainous protagonists is about zero-point-zero percent.
What I find irritating is when a show sucks you in to the point where you're sympathizing with the protagonist and then they have him do something horrible just to remind you he's a bad guy.
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There are those who genuinely believe D-Fens was always in the right.
Burnham was interesting.
Milage will vary on that but I'm not sure I ever found Michael uninteresting. Trauma, guilt and grief we've seen in characters before but Michael gets a living, breathing, reminder of her failure, and an albatross she cannot let go of.
Milage will vary on that but I'm not sure I ever found Michael uninteresting. Trauma, guilt and grief we've seen in characters before but Michael gets a living, breathing, reminder of her failure, and an albatross she cannot let go of.
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How would you describe Dexter?
About 6ft. Medium Build. Short, reddish hair. Caucasian .Heavy brow, strong jawline, deep set eyes.
Ad populum fallacy is not persuasive.
Incorrect application because I didn't say she was or wasn't interesting.
The appeal to popularity of "many people would disagree" is intended to what then?
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How so? Falling Down was a tragedy. (It was a brilliant tragedy.)
Perhaps you could explain. I can explain my remark.
One might be rooting for Foster (D-FENS), but only right up until seeing his dead body floating in the water. Then one is shocked and confused, maybe as confused as he is, because in fact he was the bad guy, not a view one would have necessarily agreed with. Foster was ineffectual and could not do anything except flail in futility. It's sad. As I said, it's tragic, not just literally, but also figuratively in the unfortunate fact that he could not rise to the occasion. Who could have?
Count me as one of the people who didn't find Burnham interesting.
Saru, on the other hand? Very interesting, and the real MVP of DISCO.
I haven't rewatched it in awhile, but I feel as though one of the things that bugged me about the final episodes of S3 was that even though there were two separate threats at the time (the Emerald Chain capturing Discovery and the folks stuck on the holoship on the dilithium planet), Burnham to some degree comes across as a key player in addressing both problems. She's interacting with Su'kal more than Saru is until Discovery is imperiled, at which point she switches story arcs and gets onto Discovery to play a key part in retaking the ship.
I'm not sure I'm being fair here...like I said, I haven't rewatched it in awhile...but I would have liked to see more of Tilly as Captain (as vaguely ludicrous as that was in principle, I enjoy Tilly as a character more than Burnham) and more of Saru himself with Su'kal (in the end there's a decent amount of that...once Burnham is gone).
This is perhaps symptomatic of a larger issue that led to me often feeling like DISCO was "The Michael Burnham Hour", where TPTB didn't seem to trust any character other than Burnham to be able to carry a significant storyline...or were perhaps under orders not to.
I'm not sure I'm being fair here...like I said, I haven't rewatched it in awhile...but I would have liked to see more of Tilly as Captain (as vaguely ludicrous as that was in principle, I enjoy Tilly as a character more than Burnham) and more of Saru himself with Su'kal (in the end there's a decent amount of that...once Burnham is gone).
This is perhaps symptomatic of a larger issue that led to me often feeling like DISCO was "The Michael Burnham Hour", where TPTB didn't seem to trust any character other than Burnham to be able to carry a significant storyline...or were perhaps under orders not to.
