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Poll Next show to die (and why?)

Which show dies next?

  • Discovery

    Votes: 40 88.9%

  • Lower Decks

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Prodigy

    Votes: 2 4.4%

  • Strange New Worlds

    Votes: 3 6.7%
  • Total voters
    45
F. King Daniel

F. King Daniel

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Picard is ending it's run after the third season, but which Star Trek show will be next to bite the dust? Discovery is on it's 5th season, how much longer will it go on for? Prodigy seems to have very little hype for how awesome it is (the latest Admiral Janeway log entry on Insta has a meagre 500 views) Strange New Worlds seems pretty safe for now, but they're just getting started.

Short Treks was just a stopgap, and covid restrictions suposedly made further entires impractical. Section 31 never happened, no more news of Starfleet Academy or the very secretive 1992. Ceti Alpha V vanished for years and re-emerged as a podcast. Is the Trek bubble about to burst? And even if not, nothing lasts forever...
 
I pick Prodigy. I love it sooooo much, but there's so little hype around the internet for it, it can't be a good sign and it's breaking my heart.
 
I wasn't aware that any of them were in a bad way. Picard was self-terminating, LD and SNW are getting crazy-positive responses, Prodigy seems to be gathering steam, and DIS had always had people who like it and people who don't, but it chugs onward. And a Seven series (possibly with the real Janeway) and S31 seem to still be possibilities.
 
Of the options listed, I picked Discovery. Don't get me wrong, I loved seasons 1 and 2 of that show, but season 3 was definitely a jumping the shark moment for me, and I haven't seen much of it or season 4. Besides, Discovery did what it needed to do: introduce us to a new era of Star Trek. In my mind it has served its purpose, and it is the only Star Trek show I stopped watching (other than Picard Season 2), whereas I keep pretty up to date on Lower Decks, Prodigy, and Strange New Worlds, the latter of which should definitely be the flagship series now, and as I've said before, it would devastate me if that one in particular ended sooner than later.
 
F. King Daniel said:
I pick Prodigy. I love it sooooo much, but there's so little hype around the internet for it, it can't be a good sign and it's breaking my heart.
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Don't know if there was every a big demand for a Star Trek show aimed at kids. I mean it's not like The Animated Series is fondly remembered. It also seems to be leaning into obscure Trek stuff that I don't think most kids would know about. It that light it might become more like The Clone Wars, which also started to lean heavy into the lore to the point that only adult fans would get it. But kids could still like the Clone Wars even if they weren't super familiar with the universe. I don't know if the same is applicable to Trek.
 
JoseNoodles said:
Don't know if there was every a big demand for a Star Trek show aimed at kids. I mean it's not like The Animated Series is fondly remembered. It also seems to be leaning into obscure Trek stuff that I don't think most kids would know about. It that light it might become more like The Clone Wars, which also started to lean heavy into the lore to the point that only adult fans would get it. But kids could still like the Clone Wars even if they weren't super familiar with the universe. I don't know if the same is applicable to Trek.
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My mom and I had a recent discussion just about stories, as my mom is not a big scifi fan, and isn't a Star Trek/Star Wars fan. However, she is a fan of interesting and unique stories. And her and I had a good conversation around just make a good story, regardless of setting, and I think a lot is to be said about children and young adult shows and just having a good story, regardless of any investment in the world itself. My children and I can watch "Miraculous Ladybug" and enjoy that story and they will explain little elements of lore I don't know. And the same goes on with watching the Mandalorian or Clone Wars. They care little for Star Wars, but are interest in smaller facets and will engage if they find the story interesting. Which I think is why Star Trek struggles so much sometimes.
 
fireproof78 said:
My mom and I had a recent discussion just about stories, as my mom is not a big scifi fan, and isn't a Star Trek/Star Wars fan. However, she is a fan of interesting and unique stories. And her and I had a good conversation around just make a good story, regardless of setting, and I think a lot is to be said about children and young adult shows and just having a good story, regardless of any investment in the world itself. My children and I can watch "Miraculous Ladybug" and enjoy that story and they will explain little elements of lore I don't know. And the same goes on with watching the Mandalorian or Clone Wars. They care little for Star Wars, but are interest in smaller facets and will engage if they find the story interesting. Which I think is why Star Trek struggles so much sometimes.
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I think modern Trek has become preoccupied with proving that it's Star Trek, and less focused on just telling good stories. That's not to say it hasn't produced good stories recently. It just feels like the process is more of a slog than it should be, and there's still an over-reliance on Trek trivia namedropping.
 
JoseNoodles said:
I think modern Trek has become preoccupied with proving that it's Star Trek, and less focused on just telling good stories. That's not to say it hasn't produced good stories recently. It just feels like the process is more of a slog than it should be, and there's still an over-reliance on Trek trivia namedropping.
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I think you hit the nail on the head, and more succinctly that I have done in the past. But, yes, I feel like current Trek is really focused on providing it's Star Trek, reassuring the audience that this still fits nice and neatly in the Trek box. Which, unfortunately, takes away a lot of the storytelling potential because it doesn't want to go "out there," but stay very close to home.
 
I checked the Rotten Tomatoes score for all four series... SNW is strongly positive with both critics and audiences. PRO and LD both have positive scores with both, though lower than SNW. DIS is popular with critics, but it's not doing so well with audiences... it's the only one of the four with spilt popcorn. However, its targeted demographic is a proven one for Trek, and there's always the Trekkies to fall back on. Prodigy's trying to open up new territory, and that can be iffy for an established franchise.

We'll also have to see how the toys do... kid properties make or break on how much stuff they sell. I figured Murf plushies would be a sure thing, but if he keeps changing form, that might not be the case.

1001001 said:
The one that makes the least money.
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Like it or not, that's about the size of it.
 
Oddish said:
We'll also have to see how the toys do... kid properties make or break on how much stuff they sell. I figured Murf plushies would be a sure thing, but if he keeps changing form, that might not be the case.
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Given that Baby Yoda plushes in all forms still abound I wouldn't be surprised if they did sell.

Also, any video game time ins could help as well.
 
fireproof78 said:
I think you hit the nail on the head, and more succinctly that I have done in the past. But, yes, I feel like current Trek is really focused on providing it's Star Trek, reassuring the audience that this still fits nice and neatly in the Trek box. Which, unfortunately, takes away a lot of the storytelling potential because it doesn't want to go "out there," but stay very close to home.
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Leading to massive course corrects (with various levels of success) for Discovery and Picard, with creative teams replaced due to higher-ups overreacting to (inevitable, it's Star Trek) online fanrage. What would Discovery or Picard look like now if they'd stuck the original course? It's giving Trek an identity crisis.
 
F. King Daniel said:
Leading to massive course corrects (with various levels of success) for Discovery and Picard, with creative teams replaced due to higher-ups overreacting to (inevitable, it's Star Trek) online fanrage. What would Discovery or Picard look like now if they'd stuck the original course? It's giving Trek an identity crisis.
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Does anyone really doubt Trek's identity? The only one giving it a crisis is fans who need it to fit a box. Casual viewers are going to approach Trek the same old way-is there anything to interest them from a story point of view?

Right now, Trek feels the same as the 90s/00s, in that you have fans who are arguing over minutia, and a general audience who is largely apathetic to the fighting and just wants good stories, which includes allowing characters to grow, to change, to be recast and to do something different if the story warrants it.
1001001 said:
Eventually they’ll transition to feature films like TNG.

:shifty:

:techman:
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Discover/Kelvin crossover film directed by Jonathan Frakes.
 
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