The NEW version of "TSAMD" starring Walter Koenig is available for viewing here: http://scifi.dragonfly.com/stp2/
"New Voyages"-TSAMD REDUX
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Man, in all the excitement I had this week, I totally forgot about it. Time to give that new cable internet connection a run for its money.
Good lord- this weekend, I need to catch up on Lost, BSG, a couple weeks of Dr. Who and Smallville, and now THIS?
HOW MUCH CAN ONE GEEK TAKE???
(thanks!)
HOW MUCH CAN ONE GEEK TAKE???
(thanks!)
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Is this the same version that screened at "A Night in 1969" a few weeks ago?
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Yeah, I thought it was cheesy too.
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^ I'm sure it was meant as a joke. It's probably just a scene directed at everyone who couldn't understand why Chekov was back in the next episode.
Oh I've no doubt it was a joke. I still however, take issue with the episode not having an ending. A little tag edited post-haste after the credits hardly qualifies either.
I get what the writers were trying to do, I just don't think that part of the plan worked out as well.
I had the pleasure of seeing this at the LA screening. It's good to see it online now! I saw the wodka ending as a joke. Of course, if you think of this episode outside the continuity and within continuity with TAS; then there's the explanation for Arex.
Um... wow that was disappointing. While the original version of TSAMD wasn't perfect (or as polished as WEAT,) it was far more entertaining and coherent than this version.
The FX during the teaser and ice field chase do not fit the episode at all. In fact, they feel very disjointed, like BSG FX rendered under the influence of crystal meth. The original did an excellent job of establishing where the Enterprise was in relation to Babel and the events between the shuttle and the BOP. Here, it's a handheld camera mess! I really have no idea what is going on.
The rest of the FX take a stylistic 180 and look more like something we'd see in TOS, but... they just don't work. The staging and choreography of the ships during combat is, for lack of a better word, lame. The music choices don't work as well as the original score. It's fun to here the original series music, but again, it's a bad fit.
Ultimately, I question the purpose of this new version. Is it supposed to resemble a 1969 production? If so, the opening FX sequences are contradictory to that intent. Is it supposed to be a new and improved version of the episode? If so, creatively it fails as the original FX, music, and editing are vastly superior. Is it supposed to bring this episode in line with the look of WEAT? The FX don't even come close to what WEAT
pulled off. Either I just don't get it or...
Chalk me up as a New Voyages purist, then. I'm hoping this is not what the FX for Blood and Fire will look like.
The FX during the teaser and ice field chase do not fit the episode at all. In fact, they feel very disjointed, like BSG FX rendered under the influence of crystal meth. The original did an excellent job of establishing where the Enterprise was in relation to Babel and the events between the shuttle and the BOP. Here, it's a handheld camera mess! I really have no idea what is going on.
The rest of the FX take a stylistic 180 and look more like something we'd see in TOS, but... they just don't work. The staging and choreography of the ships during combat is, for lack of a better word, lame. The music choices don't work as well as the original score. It's fun to here the original series music, but again, it's a bad fit.
Ultimately, I question the purpose of this new version. Is it supposed to resemble a 1969 production? If so, the opening FX sequences are contradictory to that intent. Is it supposed to be a new and improved version of the episode? If so, creatively it fails as the original FX, music, and editing are vastly superior. Is it supposed to bring this episode in line with the look of WEAT? The FX don't even come close to what WEAT
pulled off. Either I just don't get it or...
Chalk me up as a New Voyages purist, then. I'm hoping this is not what the FX for Blood and Fire will look like.
I liked it. It looked to me as if the editing was tightened up some as well, particularly in the opening "chase" segments. And I do prefer most of the new effects.
is there any where else to see it on line i cant seem to get it to work just get a blank screen 
May be your browser settings or Flash version - I couldn't see it in Opera and had to resort to IE to watch it.
The opening FX sequence was done by a different artist than the rest of the episode. That opening sequence was created quite some time ago by Doug Drexler, a BSG FX artist. He was donating his time to New Voyages in the early days, but he had to leave. Two new CG artists came in to do the effects for TSAMD(the original cut) and saved the day.
For a night in 1969, Daren Dochterman thought the opening sequence created by Doug was fun, and left it in. Daren then went on to do the effects for the revamped episode.
I agree with you. The opening sequence does not fit with the intent of the episode. The intent was to revamp the episode with effects that look similar to what they might have been able to accomplish if the series had a season 1 budget. There are some concessions made of course, as we are in the 2000's...but for the most part, the effects do look more retro and I feel they're an improvement over the first release of TSAMD.
The music...again, I agree. It doesn't fit, and the original orchestrations were far more fitting of the episode. I think a 'few' classic cues could have been borrowed and re-recorded by the guy who wrote the TSAMD score, but the key sequences from the original score should have been kept. They were exciting, and truly fit the feel of the episode.
