New Universe OR Old
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Alpha, 'Classic', Gold, the fighting mongoose and the A team for the existing Trekverse perhaps?
That script would have been head and shoulders above most of the moronic material that oldBSG did - who were the silver-painted androids? Hector and Vector? God, that was a career low for Ray Bolger.
Paramount is inviting fans to play in a whole new sandbox. CBS TV will look at its success and want a piece of that action too. They won't be catering to those, like me, who've supported the franchise these last 30 years... but instead to general audiences, with only a vague idea of Star Trek from popular culture. Frankly the prospect of a fandom with that longevity, being pissed down the drain is not one I can easily support.
Only the old universe interests me. I have too much invested in it - either filling in the blanks (ENT-TOS) or moving forward (post NEM). Over the years, Star Trek has taught me that "alternate universes" are no substitute and only brought into existence to be corrected - brought back into line, so history can run its rightful course. That doesn't preclude new additions to the Trekverse, as my support for ENT from the outset proved. Revisions are equally good and challenge preconceptions, as there has always been leeway enough... even to the point of modern day production values portraying a prequel to a universe created in the 60's.
I wish Paramount the best of luck breathing new life in Star Trek. Whatever makes the popcorn munching masses happy. Good luck to them. A rising tide should lift all boats... but this film is setting itself above what has gone before. More fans than Executives realise have been relegated to waving from the dockside, everything they loved reduced to flotsam and jetsam.
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Hmmm. Well, I imagine there will still be lots of fan fiction in the old Trek 'verse.
Personally, I've been a fan all my life, and I'm thrilled about this new direction. Everything I love is still there. I have the DVDs to prove it. Trek is Trek. For me, this new Trek is a welcome addition.
Same here...
I know what the... Well, what do you want to call them? Trek traditionalists? Trek fundamentalists? Old Guard?... mean, but neither do I understand them nor do I want to join their ranks. Although I have always been very passionate about my hobbies (Star Trek among them), I've also always kept both a reasonable and sensible distance and an open and flexible mind.
I agree with urbandk
I think it will be more about the what are the fans called? 'Old fans' or 'young fans' as marketers would put it.
the Star Wars franchise started as feature films. Then there was a 16 year gap between feature films until 1999. Then a 3-year break between the last feature film in 2005 and the animated film in 2008 and a animated TV series. In 2010 there will be a liveaction TV series. Will that stick to the old SW canon or catering to new fans under age 24?
Apples to Oranges or something very similar with 3-4 decades of a franchise and different age groups of fans and core fans or casual watchers.
I only used SW franchise as an example for old vs new canon material. Please do not turn this thread into a ST vs SW franchise thread.
By the dollar figure spent by consumers on the JJAbrahams nuTrek film, comicbooks and merchandising vs the dollar figures spent on Blu-ray and DVDs based on 40 years of the franchise. It always comes down to money.
I think it will be more about the what are the fans called? 'Old fans' or 'young fans' as marketers would put it.
the Star Wars franchise started as feature films. Then there was a 16 year gap between feature films until 1999. Then a 3-year break between the last feature film in 2005 and the animated film in 2008 and a animated TV series. In 2010 there will be a liveaction TV series. Will that stick to the old SW canon or catering to new fans under age 24?
Apples to Oranges or something very similar with 3-4 decades of a franchise and different age groups of fans and core fans or casual watchers.
I only used SW franchise as an example for old vs new canon material. Please do not turn this thread into a ST vs SW franchise thread.
Same here. OldTrek is done, but it was dead before this movie was announced - and it's always going to be out there, what was created won't go away. I can still watch TOS any time I want.
Can't wait for May 8th.
Same here. OldTrek is done, but it was dead before this movie was announced - and it's always going to be out there, what was created won't go away. I can still watch TOS any time I want.
Can't wait for May 8th.
Hey, the Old or classic trek still lives on,in the great novels! (esp the DS9R)
hellsgate
Commodore
I *personally* say, take bits and pieces of all the universes, provided a specific author / screenwriter is "plausibly knowledgeable of" every character, bit of future-history, trekno-babble, et al. they're attempting to knit together in a good story. Do the homework before setting out. Use spell-checker. Its your friend. Formatting. Black text on a cream-coloured ".html" background for easy reading.
Anthony
Lieutenant Commander
Trek ended in 1991 with TUC. What transpired after that, well--never mind.Same here. OldTrek is done, but it was dead before this movie was announced - and it's always going to be out there, what was created won't go away. I can still watch TOS any time I want.
Can't wait for May 8th.
Trek's never been dead, and never will be, regardless of contemporary sentiment. That movie won't alter or supplement that. It's its own animal, apart from Classic Trek. It doesn't require JJ, or any other flavor of the moment to survive in pop culture. It's already there.
Where do you think it's been for the last 40+ years?
The same place it'll be 40+ years from now, where it'll always be.
May 8th. Careful what you wish for. Do not count on general audiences to share your enthusiasm until the numbers are in, lest you be forced to settle for rewatching "long dead" Old Trek for the forseeable future.
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