New Star Trek Miniseries with Kirk as Captain again.

[DumbDumb2007]

Captain Kirk should be ressurrected, promoted back to Admiral and be given command of the Enterprise-E which is more like a warship along the lines of the refit and Enterprise-A.
Kirk's new adventures after Jean-Luc Picard's own promotion to Admiral and departure would entail him in charge of some of Picard's command crew and some other new cast members .
Worf would be second in command of the ship. It would be his chance to serve honorably under who was once a Great Foe of the Klingon Empire. A new doctor could be cast and a few characters from Voyager and DS9 could be brought over. Seeing Kirk offering Navigation advice to Nog or Harry Kim on the Bridge would be smooth.
The tv movies made for cable with high production values could be made a few at a time while Boston Legal is on Hiatus. Kirk would be seen more like the father figure he is. It would be fuel for loads of new stories as the Romulans once again deal with an old menace that they thought they had gotten rid of. Old Klingons would go into surprise that their old adversary is back, The Cardassians would get a chance to finally square off against Kirk. It would be fun to see Kirk Confront the Borg while on the Enterprise-E which was designed to fight them. A few of the races from the Delta Quardant could come into the Alpha Quadrant and stir up trouble that only a veteran Commander from the harder times of the 23Rd Century could handle.
Of course the Star trek films wit hteh new and younger recast versions of the Originals would not be affected.
James T. Kirk would become the Marshall Dillon of outer space as he even becomes a father to a younger clone of David Marcus. A second chance he never thought he would get.
There is more mileage and story material in both Kirk, Shatner and the whole 24th Century.
Seeing Admiral James T. Kirk aboard the U.S.S. Enterprise-NCC-1701-E fight off the Rogue Forces of the Dominion would be worth watching too.

 

[HRHTheKING]

"Old" Kirk has had his day now. This proposal is a little too "Worship Kirk-esque" for my liking with Kirk seemingly defeating the entire galaxy by himself. Plus, I hated the first series that Harry Kim was in. I don't need to see him in another. Also, I hate mega-crossover concepts.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Sounds like something Shatner would write.

 

[Superman]

I honestly would love to see this.

Is it reminiscent of BSG? Sure.

But it's fucking James T. Kirk.

\S/

 

[brian lackey]

See:Star Trek: Confederation just to give you ideas.
This is so cool. I could see Shatner write this series. Here are the cast:
James T. Kirk
Worf
Naomi Wildman(Played by Scarlett Pomers)
Ezri Dax
Tom Paris
Harry Kim
Nog
Wesley Crusher(from Nemesis Deleted Scene)
Miles O'Brien
Newcomer:
Riona Heartilly(Played by Camilla Belle)
Brianna Lackey(Named after myself; Played by Jessica Collins)
Recurring Cast:
Winston Daniels
Sela(bad guy)
Kathryn Janeway
Seven of Nine
Will Riker
Deanna Troi
That's all I could think of. What do you think?

 

[zenophite]

Way too many old characters in major roles...Sorry, I'd love to see kirk again but I'd say this idea would sink rather quickly - if there was even a remote chance that it would be done.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

I'm sorry... I grew up with Kirk as my main role-model. I love the character. But NO. NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-.

Part of real life is accepting change. Part of Shatner's real life is that he's not a young, or even middle-aged, man.

While I accept Chris Pine playing a younger version (NOT a "replacement" for Shatner in this new movie, Shatner is always going to be Kirk in my mind. A permanent recasting would rub me the wrong way.

All this proposal seems to do, as far as I can tell, is take fragments from old shows that you, personally, like, and sticks them into a big blob.

If you want to tell a story... give us NEW characters. TOS didn't give us recycled old characters, did it? No, the characters we got were NEW... and some stayed, some left, some evolved.

Give us new "blank sheet" characters, and the same thing can happen. Stick with "tried and true" characters and you simply can't change them without annoying their particular "hardcore fans."

NOT a good idea.

A new ship.

A new captain.

A new crew.

Just not one envisioned by Jeri Taylor...

 

[hellsgate]

I've already tried to bring both Bateson and Kirk back as C.O.'s of new fanfic vessels but I find a tremendous amount of resistance to a somewhat demystified James T. Kirk. There's plenty of eagerness to see Bateson back in the saddle though.

They don't want to see an older, wiser, more-contemplative widower (from the "Shatnerverse" litverse,) in the center seat of a starship taking orders from Admiral Kathrine Janeway instead of reading about him sending a message to Starfleet Command about what he's about to do & then just see him go off & do his thing.

They want Kirk left alone so fans can remember the battle-centric adventures of a youthful, impulsive, quick-tempered, ham-fisted, womanizing bachelor of the late 2200's & early 2300's.

To see what I've tried, go here:
http://www.geocities.com/trekfan1975/FanFiction_Engineering.html

More work:
http://www.geocities.com/trekwriter31/FanFic.html

 

[digifan]

Jack Bauer said:
Sounds like something Shatner would write.

You got that right.

Shatner has an ego bigger than the entire Trekiverse put together.

Kirk is dead. Long live Spock.

 

[bigdaddy]

I think it would be rather dumb for Kirk to take Picard's ship after the events of Star Trek 7. Kirk tells him just to stay a captain and never leave the Enterprise.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

hellsgate said:

I've already tried to bring both Bateson and Kirk back as C.O.'s of new fanfic vessels but I find a tremendous amount of resistance to a somewhat demystified James T. Kirk. There's plenty of eagerness to see Bateson back in the saddle though.

They don't want to see an older, wiser, more-contemplative widower (from the "Shatnerverse" litverse,) in the center seat of a starship taking orders from Admiral Kathrine Janeway instead of reading about him sending a message to Starfleet Command about what he's about to do & then just see him go off & do his thing.

They want Kirk left alone so fans can remember the battle-centric adventures of a youthful, impulsive, quick-tempered, ham-fisted, womanizing bachelor of the late 2200's & early 2300's.

To see what I've tried, go here:
http://www.geocities.com/trekfan1975/FanFiction_Engineering.html

More work:
http://www.geocities.com/trekwriter31/FanFic.html

Anyway you cn post some pictures of Kirk and Bateson fan-fic ships. And by the wy that has to be the best photoshop of Kirk in the current strfleet uniform I have ever seen.

 

[DumbDumb2007]

shatner is Star Trek. we all know it. If Shatner/Kirk weren't Star Trek then the next movie would not be about a young James Kirk and what led him to Command a ship one day by his interaction with Captain Pike. Clear and simple.
Seeing Kirk played by WS in a few Captain Kirk aboard the Enterprise-E in a few made for tv movies with high budget standards would be a ratings winner on each airing.
The uniforms from the Nex Gen films should be reused but recolored. Gold for the Captain,Blue,red,green/turquise etc.
Seeing Kirk get used to having a Klingon First Officer and a young Julian Bashir as his Cheif Medical Officer would add dimension to Kirk's character as he gets used to having to deal with a former enemy as his ally, rerefrence to Leonard Mc'Coy still being alive could be used once in awhile so Kirk can handle Bashir trying to live up the the surgeon who's shoes he is trying to fill.
Kirk would be like the Rooster Cogburn or Outer Space as he handles like a Sherrif the latest batch of aliens trying to wreak havoc on the Federation.
Seeing the Enterprise-E on a covert mission aboard the Enterprise-E with Commander Worf aboard as XO with the ship equipped with an on Loan Romulan Cloaking device as it uses the Bajoran Wormhole to get gather information on the Gamma Quadrant's Dominion which will undoubtably attempt to attack the Federation again at some future point would be a story and a half.
The Enterprise-E was written in as more of a combat vessel than an exploration ship. It's didn't suit Picard as teh 1701-D did. The Galaxy Class Enterprise was more of an Explore type ship than a warship. That's one of the reasons that the Next Gen movies didn't do to well. Picard shoud have been promoted to Commodore in FC to keep it al lfresh. I felt like I was wasting my time and money seeing a Next Gen film.
TWOK did well and was a good movie because even without dialogue musltiple things were occuring constantly, Just looking at the screen you saw an Admiral in charge of teh Fleet training division, You saw a former Science Officer, now captain , a Former front line vessel now turnied Training ship, etc.
If Shatner came back as Kirk aboard the Enterprise-E everyone would bug out. It would be turned inside out and it would be fresh. I almost fell asleep during Nemesis and I almost walked out of Insurrection.
Kirk would flip out the Milky way Galaxy on his return and the effect would be similar to effect that the presense that Commander Cain had on the crew of the Galactica on the old BSG series. Everyone thought he was dead and gone. Every scene Cain was in was a mindblower because his mere presence was enough to shock everyone from Commander Adama, to the regular cast and even the villians including John Colicos as Baltar. Who can forget the scene on teh original Galactice when Baltar was informed that Commander cain was alive ? he went into a cold sweat and panic.
If Kirk came back as skipper of the Enterprise-E it would be worth seeing. It would be something familiar but put into an all new angle. A ratings winner.
Kirk would blow the Romulan's minds in a sequel story to the " Enterprise Incident". The Enterprise-E would be on a spy mission to get information on the Thaleron Radiation machine. It would play as a sort of Battle on the North Atlantic Ocean to get the German Enigma Machine.
NCC-1701-E's new Captain : James T. Kirk

 

[brian lackey]

Hey DumbDumb2007, why not choose Enterprise-F Enterprise-class Prometheus Variant. And I want the series involves much ass-kicking would be awesome compared to Kevin W.'s Remington fanfic series. And what the new series called Star Trek: The Next Generation II?

 

[Balthier the Great]

DumbDumb2007 said:
shatner is Star Trek. we all know it. If Shatner/Kirk weren't Star Trek then the next movie would not be about a young James Kirk and what led him to Command a ship one day by his interaction with Captain Pike. Clear and simple.
Seeing Kirk played by WS in a few Captain Kirk aboard the Enterprise-E in a few made for tv movies with high budget standards would be a ratings winner on each airing.
The uniforms from the Nex Gen films should be reused but recolored. Gold for the Captain,Blue,red,green/turquise etc.
Seeing Kirk get used to having a Klingon First Officer and a young Julian Bashir as his Cheif Medical Officer would add dimension to Kirk's character as he gets used to having to deal with a former enemy as his ally, rerefrence to Leonard Mc'Coy still being alive could be used once in awhile so Kirk can handle Bashir trying to live up the the surgeon who's shoes he is trying to fill.
Kirk would be like the Rooster Cogburn or Outer Space as he handles like a Sherrif the latest batch of aliens trying to wreak havoc on the Federation.
Seeing the Enterprise-E on a covert mission aboard the Enterprise-E with Commander Worf aboard as XO with the ship equipped with an on Loan Romulan Cloaking device as it uses the Bajoran Wormhole to get gather information on the Gamma Quadrant's Dominion which will undoubtably attempt to attack the Federation again at some future point would be a story and a half.
The Enterprise-E was written in as more of a combat vessel than an exploration ship. It's didn't suit Picard as teh 1701-D did. The Galaxy Class Enterprise was more of an Explore type ship than a warship. That's one of the reasons that the Next Gen movies didn't do to well. Picard shoud have been promoted to Commodore in FC to keep it al lfresh. I felt like I was wasting my time and money seeing a Next Gen film.
TWOK did well and was a good movie because even without dialogue musltiple things were occuring constantly, Just looking at the screen you saw an Admiral in charge of teh Fleet training division, You saw a former Science Officer, now captain , a Former front line vessel now turnied Training ship, etc.
If Shatner came back as Kirk aboard the Enterprise-E everyone would bug out. It would be turned inside out and it would be fresh. I almost fell asleep during Nemesis and I almost walked out of Insurrection.
Kirk would flip out the Milky way Galaxy on his return and the effect would be similar to effect that the presense that Commander Cain had on the crew of the Galactica on the old BSG series. Everyone thought he was dead and gone. Every scene Cain was in was a mindblower because his mere presence was enough to shock everyone from Commander Adama, to the regular cast and even the villians including John Colicos as Baltar. Who can forget the scene on teh original Galactice when Baltar was informed that Commander cain was alive ? he went into a cold sweat and panic.
If Kirk came back as skipper of the Enterprise-E it would be worth seeing. It would be something familiar but put into an all new angle. A ratings winner.
Kirk would blow the Romulan's minds in a sequel story to the " Enterprise Incident". The Enterprise-E would be on a spy mission to get information on the Thaleron Radiation machine. It would play as a sort of Battle on the North Atlantic Ocean to get the German Enigma Machine.
NCC-1701-E's new Captain : James T. Kirk

First off, paragraph breaks are your friends.

Secondly, yeah nice try shat.

It's really really fanwanky, in a bad way. There are too many random characters from other series, and they just seem kinda thrown in just to be there. Why would all of these characters want to work together, or why would SF put them together? Worf is an ambassador, and Bashir (if memory serves) wants to be a doctor on the "frontier", not a ship's doctor. And why clone David Marcus? I mean, surely Kirk is capable of getting a woman and doesn't need in vitro cloning to reproduce.

As for the cloak -- why? Why barrow/steal from the Rommies when you have the Pegasus model that can allow a ship through solid rock? Why do they need a cloak anyway?

I think the Fed pretty well stomped the dominion, so, I doubt they'd be back. Besides which -- why is it necessary to have Kirk lead this mission? Why not someone Kirklike that we haven't met yet?

The bring back Kirk thing sounds like the one beef I had with Butlerian Jihad -- by the end, all the interesting things in that universe were done by the Atreides, and it killed the universe (at least for me). I think having Kirk be the main thrust of Fed history would do the same. The universe is just less interesting if it's the product of a small group of people. Completely unrealistic. Kirk was a human, not god in velor.

What Trek needs most is great scifi writers, not fanwank.

 

[nerfherder]

What I rilly like about this is how Kirk gets to fight not just the Romulans and Klingons but the Borg and the Dominion and evrybuddy else from TNG era Trek. That is kewl!!! And it's so in keeping with the Kirk I know and love. Like, in "Miri", when all those kids were trying to bonk bonk him on the head and he whipped out that club and said, "I'll bonk bonk you ya fucking kids!" and smashed their brains in. That was awesome! Or in "A Taste of Armageddon" when Kirk says, "We can admit that we're killers ... but we're not going to kill ... today. It's just me killing you, bitch!" and then he whipped out that phaser and disintergrated evryone. That was killer! yes! Bring back Kirk as the ass-kicking military hardass fighting a new enemy evry week. And evry week, the enemy would be that much deadlyer. Like, one Borg cube the first week, and then two the next week! And all the while serving as a father figure teaching his young charges how to kick alien butt. Now, that's character development!

 

[Cary L. Brown]

I love Sci-fi that tells stories about REAL HUMAN BEINGS, but in settings that allow much broader opportunity to show story impact.

Make any character "immortal" or otherwise removed from REAL HUMANITY, and you've destroyed the core of what makes the guy interesting.

Kirk was a HUMAN BEING who did great stuff and just happened to die in a humiliating fashion due to Brannon Braga's and Rick Berman's desire to force the fans to "move on" to their "newer and kewler" series.

What you're doing with this proposal (so to speak) is ripping out the very HUMANITY of Kirk. You might as well make it a "Kirk-Bot." Just make a robot but put a Shatner rubber mask onto it.

Sorry, this is a HORRIBLE concept.

Kirk lived, Kirk served, Kirk died. You, my friend, live, you may serve, and you will die. It's what you do between birth and death that makes your life meaningful. Attempts to pretend you'll never die simply makes your life pointless and stupid.

SO... you want to make Kirk's life pointless? No change, no growth, and yes, NO END?

No thanks.

I'm better than halfway through my life now, I'm sure. Maybe this gives me a different perspective than you. I don't want to see someone who's not a kid anymore keep playing like he or she hasn't aged. It nauseates me.

 

[DumbDumb2007]

Darn Right !

 

[cardinal biggles]

If you agree with what Cary posted, it begs the question why you suggested it in the first place...

 

[Superman]

Screw this shit.

Here's what I want to see.

A few years back, the cats over at BringBackKirk got some "former Trek writer" to write a "novelization" of their trailer.

The first part was awesome. Spock rescues the real Kirk from the Nexus with Scotty's help aboard a refit Enterprise-A.

At the end, Kirk is given command of the Enterprise-A by Janeway (her only good decision) and then told the Enterprise A can keep her name and her registry.

Kirk's ordered to return to Earth as soon as possible, but decides to go "out there, thataway" instead.

Scotty's back in Engineering and Spock's back at Kirk's side. There are new characters on the bridge, and Kirk's back as captain of the only Enterprise in the fleet.

Now that would make a hell of a series, even a fun, online series.

I don't buy this Kirk takes over the Enterprise-E shit. He'd reject the offer to take command based soley on how fucking ugly it is, and then go off and steal the E-A from the Starfleet museum if they wouldn't just give her back to him.

\S/

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Let's just leave Kirk dead at the age he died (and for the luv of Vaal, he's not allowed to fight the Dominion, the Cardassians or the Borg! ) but I wouldn't mind taking the new movie cast, if they work out as well as I think they will, and creating longer-form stories with them - Star Trek really needs the longer format to take advantage of its complexity and depth.

Problem is, would they deign to do TV? Stranger things have happened and the gulf between TV and movies isn't as wide as it used to be.