New Star Trek Crew Flies into Trouble from the Trekkies
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Um, many TOS fans said that about TNG during it's first season. (Oh, and for everyone saying 'TNG ratings were great in 1987' - I distinctly recall my local station here in the L.A. market (KCOP 13) sandwiched the new TNG episode between repeats of TOS episodes (IE they'd air a TOS episode prior to the TNG episode; and then another TOS episode after. They did this through most of TNG's first season.<--- That may have had an effect on TNG's ratings.
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Also, many fans feel CBS hasn't shown or talked much about the actual ST: D series particulars leading up to the premiere later this coming month (now about 2 weeks away) - but here's the type of ads KCOP 13 was running for the last two weeks right UP to TNG's premiere night:
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How much actual TNG footage do you see in these promos? (which were made and distributed to local stations by Paramount with the station's name and channel number in the end title card.)
And here's a piece Entertainment Tonight did about 2 months prior to the TNG premiere:
IDK - Compared to what we have today - CBS has released WAY MORE actual footage and series info leading up to the premiere as compared to what they released regarding TNG leading up to it's premiere in 1987.
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Those first two were quite vague and didn't even show anything from TNG.Um, many TOS fans said that about TNG during it's first season. (Oh, and for everyone saying 'TNG ratings were great in 1987' - I distinctly recall my local station here in the L.A. market (KCOP 13) sandwiched the new TNG episode between repeats of TOS episodes (IE they'd air a TOS episode prior to the TNG episode; and then another TOS episode after. They did this through most of TNG's first season.<--- That may have had an effect on TNG's ratings.
Edited to add:
Also, many fans feel CBS hasn't shown or talked much about the actual ST: D series particulars leading up to the premiere later this coming month (now about 2 weeks away) - but here's the type of ads KCOP 13 was running for the last two weeks right UP to TNG's premiere night:
and
^^^
How much actual TNG footage do you see in these promos? (which were made and distributed to local stations by Paramount with the station's name and channel number in the end title card.)
And here's a piece Entertainment Tonight did about 2 months prior to the TNG premiere:
IDK - Compared to what we have today - CBS has released WAY MORE actual footage and series info leading up to the premiere as compared to what they released regarding TNG leading up to it's premiere in 1987.
Incidentally, now I want some Van de Kamp's frozen fish.
Kor
LOL, that is exactly how my father described it to me when I asked what the title meant.
"I guess these will be the children of Kirk and Spock and all the original crew".
It made no sense to me, even at age 9. So...their kids will all be serving together?
When I first tuned in, I absolutely expected to see Kirk, Jr., et al, and wondered why Kirk's son was so old and bald and British. And where was Spock, Jr.? Surely that gold guy can't be him.
No, I agree that it is totally valid to decide personal interest or disinterest based on promotional material - that is the entire point of such material. It might also be incorrect, if the promotional material is not representative of the product (see the Orville's marketing which played it much more as a straight comedy/parody than it is, and MacFarlane himself has said as much) - but that is a different argument. I am not saying that other peoples personal interests are wrong, I am saying that their critique of the show (from before it was seen) as being "not real Trek" or "disrespectful of Roddenberry's intent" or "a total disaster" other similar claims cannot be reasonable without having actually seen the product.
Don't know what they were thinking hiring that patrick stewart guy. I saw him in wild geese 2, he was so bad. NOT CAPTAIN MATERIAL AT ALL. A star trek captain needs to have hair like Kirk, which patrick stewart doesn't have. Every officer that we saw had hair, they have cured baldness by kirks time. Alien womans being attracgterd to Picard wouldn't be believeable because he has no hair and looks boring. He's british but we're supposed to believe that he's playing a french captain? Picard, more like Pickhard right guys???????????? THIS WILL NEVER BE STAR TREK. I
What?
We didn't get it in the UK until 1990 and I was 8 at the time, but I'd watched repeats of the original and some of the films.
I enjoyed it from the beginning, but I remember my mum and grandma (who were fans of the original) being rather unimpressed at first.
Strange that my first impression was that I didn't like Picard as he seemed too stern and scary... wow, my opinion of him drastically changed over the years.
DS9, I wasn't that keen on to begin with, but became my favourite. (Around the time of the UK VHS release of Way of the Warrior).
Voyager is a weird one for beginnings for me... I actually didn't know it existed until a family member returned home with a VHS of the pilot one day. There was a weird thing in the UK, where some of the episodes were getting video releases before they had appeared on Sky TV, but part way through a season, Sky would catch up and overtake. Most of my pocket money as a teenager was spent on these. (DS9 and Voyager).
Enterprise was the series I was most disappointed in hearing about before release. It felt to me that the Star Trek I knew and loved was actually over. Again, it has grown on me, but I still don't like the Xindi and Temporal Cold War stuff.
As for discovery, I did eyeroll a little at the fact we were getting another prequel and at the first tease of the ship, but extremely glad it was announced it was in the original timeline. (Waits for all sorts of reboot comments to follow...
).
Mostly though, my attitude towards Discovery in the run up to it's release has been one of excitement... and I truly don't get excited about too many things.
I would still have preferred a post a Nemesis setting, but liking what we have so far (with some reservations).
I'm also hoping this will lead to some other Star Trek TV projects (though not so sure about the potential of the rumoured Khan miniseries).
I enjoyed it from the beginning, but I remember my mum and grandma (who were fans of the original) being rather unimpressed at first.
Strange that my first impression was that I didn't like Picard as he seemed too stern and scary... wow, my opinion of him drastically changed over the years.
DS9, I wasn't that keen on to begin with, but became my favourite. (Around the time of the UK VHS release of Way of the Warrior).
Voyager is a weird one for beginnings for me... I actually didn't know it existed until a family member returned home with a VHS of the pilot one day. There was a weird thing in the UK, where some of the episodes were getting video releases before they had appeared on Sky TV, but part way through a season, Sky would catch up and overtake. Most of my pocket money as a teenager was spent on these. (DS9 and Voyager).
Enterprise was the series I was most disappointed in hearing about before release. It felt to me that the Star Trek I knew and loved was actually over. Again, it has grown on me, but I still don't like the Xindi and Temporal Cold War stuff.
As for discovery, I did eyeroll a little at the fact we were getting another prequel and at the first tease of the ship, but extremely glad it was announced it was in the original timeline. (Waits for all sorts of reboot comments to follow...
).Mostly though, my attitude towards Discovery in the run up to it's release has been one of excitement... and I truly don't get excited about too many things.
I would still have preferred a post a Nemesis setting, but liking what we have so far (with some reservations).
I'm also hoping this will lead to some other Star Trek TV projects (though not so sure about the potential of the rumoured Khan miniseries).
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"It's sad to see this rip-off series going on the air, particular for us fans who have been there from the beginning."
"I think he should have named it something else, maybe Star Fleet, because the new show will be so obviously different from the original."
"Outranged fans are beseching producers... to halt plans."
Honestly it sounds like the fans have spoken, and this whole Next Generation thing is gonna be a big flop.
Credit to /u/GeneGrantham from Reddit.
Roughly a month by since this thread was started and I gotta say, it's even more relevant.
Simply put, haters gonna hate.
Don't get me wrong, I totally agree and hope this show will be pulled by midseason. But damn, that Cheryl McFadden is hot. I bet she'll hook up with the New Spock by the third episode.
Mark
Exactly. It was strictly a non-profit enterprise before, produced entirely as a public service.
Exactly. It was strictly a non-profit enterprise before, produced entirely as a public service.
If you buy that, then did you hear Federation wasn't a military organization?
Star Trek paid for in part by The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the National Endowment for the Arts, The Pew Charitable Trust and viewers like you.Exactly. It was strictly a non-profit enterprise before, produced entirely as a public service.
Seeing that article, I don't know if I should feel reassured that the hate I see online is nothing new or depressed that some people have always been so negative and resistant to change.
