Well, YOU might not care about that. I might, who knows.
New series: Enterprise-B or -C?
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Yes, I understand that they are 2D, but I'm talking about the far side of the Klingon and Romulan territories.
On the graphic attached, it shows blue Federation territory on the far eastern side, well into the Beta Quadrant. One star system that surprised me was the location of the Amargosa system (Star Trek Generations). That's clear across the Klingon Empire. Did the Federation claim that side of the Galaxy after the Khitomer conference?
1) These fan maps are attempts to explain what is mentioned on shows, but there are so many contradictions on the show(because the writers didn't care), that the maps all contradict each other. So I wouldn't really trust any map you see. The answer is always, the systems are located where the story needs them to be.
2) In a 3D map, Federation space can be over/under Klingon/Romulan space and allow for a passage.
3) The gap between star systems is so large, that fixed borders doesn't really make sense. Ignoring the whole gravitic sensor net, it's better to think about each planetary system being federation/klingon/romulan and the space in between systems being the equivalent of intergalactic oceans.
4) Have you looked at a map of the US and Canada? Alaska is off there by itself. Why can't the same occur with the Federation and Klingons?
5) Systems are where the story needs them to be, don't overthink it.
Hence why I said "my problem," newbie.
1. I had no way of knowing it was a fan map. I could have sworn it was a licensed product.
2. Yes, I understand the physics of a 3-dimensional map. But I would also assume that the Romulans and the Klingons would attempt to travel along the Z-axis as well and claim those areas as well, given that the galactic plane is much more narrow.
But, then again, the Milky Way galaxy is much larger than the graphic implies, and their territories do not extend THAT far into the Beta Quadrant (vs my observation on Celestia and the furthest galactic Easternmost-known stars). The Federation COULD have traveled up and down on the Z-axis to bypass the Romulan and Klingon territories, but I would have imagined they wouldn't have liked that one bit...
3. That's one thing I can dead-agree on.
4. Yes, I know about the separation between Alaska and the CONUS. Well, I would imagine there has to be a story behind that. There's a story as to why Alaska is separated from the CONUS. I'm failing as a citizen for not being familiar with Alaskan history (given it's part of my country, and I'll take that bullet); I'll do some research on that first chance I get. But now that I can understand the analogy to the Beta Quadrant far side of the Federation, maybe I can be privvy to its history?
That whole "Have you looked at a map of the U.S. and Canada?" bit; now that question was just insulting...
5.But...they've already established where the systems are. I don't have to overthink it because the thinking has already been done for me. Besides, if I don't have some sense of relativity, it's going to drive me bonkers! (OCD. Don't reply to that.) Personally, I think it's fun to visualize where Vulcan and the Klingon Empires are in our night sky. Telling me to "don't overthink it" sort of violates my inquisitive (and obviously hyperactive) nature. With much respect, I must decline acquiescing to your directive.
Informative and constructive. Thanks. Then don't watch. Seriously.
I have no idea what the new series will be but I'm going to shell out a few bucks a month and watch it and see. If it sucks, I'll stop paying.
But I'm not going to dismiss the first new series since VOY that excites me simply because I dont "give a crap" about that time period. I'll give it a shot. It's Trek. If the concept or timeline or even universe is something completely different than what I described, I'll still do the same.
To just say,"that's not my ideal story and I don't care" --- well, fine. I don't know why people get on the Internet and then get on a Trek message board and then click on a thread about the Enterprise B or C and then respond to someone else doing the same thing to tell them they don't care.
Uhhhh....ok?
Then don't watch?
At least save the rest of us --who have also bothered to come to this site --from your apathetic posts .
Thank you.
It's fine with me if you're correct. I'll be watching regardless of the setting. I want to see GOOD Trek. That won't be determined by the choice of timeline or universe.
Hope you come around to that view and give the new series a chance even if it's not what you would prefer.
Good day to you.
Hope you come around to that view and give the new series a chance even if it's not what you would prefer.
Good day to you.
If you had actually taken the time to read some of my past posts on the subject instead of getting all defensive because of one response I made that you didn't agree with, you'd find that I feel the same way.
And if you judge people solely on the basis of a single post that contradicts what you think, that's YOUR problem.
Either way, I'm done with this discussion.
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