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New Mac Pros Just Announced!

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With new Penryn procs to boot (although the mentioned set-up below is NOT a Penryn-equipped)

I played around with the online configurations and came up with this setup, which is a pretty great price-performance in my view:

1 2.8 GHz quad-core processor
2 GB RAM ( 8 FB-DIMM slots)
1 TB HD (S-ATA 3 Mb/s) (4 HD bays)
GeForce 8800 GT video card (512 MB)
16x Superdrive
Airport Extreme card
2 independent RJ-45 ports
Bluetooth 2.0 built-in (no add-on anymore)

$2949 with free shipping in 3-5 days.
 
Not a system anyone in their right mind would/should buy unless they're heavily into graphic arts.

And I could build one hell of a PC for $3,000. ;)

I'm sure it's a nice piece of kit though.
 
I love when Apple comes out with new towers---I like configure one with all the most expensive options and see what happens. If you want a RAID hard drive setup with four terabytes, gig upon gig of RAM, two enormous screens, and all sorts of other great stuff, you're looking at about $25,000 or so. Plus $50 if you need the little USB modem. :lol: I'm not really clear on who would buy a $25,000 machine like that, except maybe corporations with massive discounts for lots of them at once.
 
One of the men who owns the company I work for has a couple of high end computers like that in his primary and summer homes to run his home entertainment, lights, security, window shades, etc. One of those set-ups you only see on the Discovery Channel, it's amazing. Instead of remotes he's got these 12" LCD touch tablets that control everything. It's all PC based though.

But he's a billionaire, so it doesn't count. :lol:
 
FordSVT said:
Not a system anyone in their right mind would/should buy unless they're heavily into graphic arts.

And I could build one hell of a PC for $3,000. ;)

I'm sure it's a nice piece of kit though.
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But I can guarentee it won't be a nicely put together as the Mac Pro - I had a chance to lookin a G5 model a few years back - very neat build job.
 
You typically need to pay between $2k and $3k for a state-of-the-art Mac laptop. That's not too unusual.

Fortunately, one generation back is almost as good, and often much cheaper.
 
Marc said:
FordSVT said:
Not a system anyone in their right mind would/should buy unless they're heavily into graphic arts.

And I could build one hell of a PC for $3,000. ;)

I'm sure it's a nice piece of kit though.
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But I can guarentee it won't be a nicely put together as the Mac Pro - I had a chance to lookin a G5 model a few years back - very neat build job.
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I don't care what it looks like inside the box as long as it performs.
 
It just means the parts in today's Macs are no different than what you could buy yourself and put into a garden-variety PC. You just get to pay the "Steve Jobs tax." :p
 
Marc said:
FordSVT said:
Not a system anyone in their right mind would/should buy unless they're heavily into graphic arts.

And I could build one hell of a PC for $3,000. ;)

I'm sure it's a nice piece of kit though.
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But I can guarentee it won't be a nicely put together as the Mac Pro - I had a chance to lookin a G5 model a few years back - very neat build job.
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Maybe, maybe not. Maybe FordSVT and myself are quite good at building aesthetically pleasing computers. ;)

I do know this. $3,000? My system would obliterate games. I'd have a Quad Core in it at least, not to mention the highest and fastest RAM, a couple of TeraByte hard drives, high end SLI video cards, and a huge power supply, sleek case and 27" flat panel monitor.

I'd have money left over to buy me a nice cigar after I was done, too. :D


J.
 
Robert Maxwell said:
It just means the parts in today's Macs are no different than what you could buy yourself and put into a garden-variety PC. You just get to pay the "Steve Jobs tax." :p
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No necessariliy - take into account things like the FB memory used in the MacPro which you won't find any many consumer levels motherboards which push the price up (that's not to say that Apple aren't like any name brand manufacture who don't have pretty big margin on some of the peripherals and additional components).

Oh and the board in the thing is a dual processor giving so you ran run 2 x Quad Core Xeons for 8 cores.

Some-one did and apples for apples (no pun intended comparison) on pricing exact same specs for a MacPro and and equivalent Dell and going on Australian Dollar prices the Apple was cheaper by the better part for $1000.
 
I'm sure you can find examples of Macs being cheaper than PCs, but it doesn't change that, on the average, Macs are generally more expensive.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that, either. Apple can charge whatever they think people will pay, and people are paying.

It's just not something I'd do. :)
 
Robert Maxwell said:
I'm sure you can find examples of Macs being cheaper than PCs, but it doesn't change that, on the average, Macs are generally more expensive.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that, either. Apple can charge whatever they think people will pay, and people are paying.

It's just not something I'd do. :)
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Not examples, when you spec out boxes from Apple, Dell, and we'll say HP and make them all the same or as comparable as possible hardware wise (I won't get into software) the Apple boxes are more often cheaper or the same price.

Where the overpriced myth comes into play is the fact that Apple doesn't make bargain basement $299 el cheapo PC's, they just don't compete in that segment of the market.
 
That's true. The Mac Pros have always been just THAT: Professional, workstation-level machines that excel in audio, video, and 3D pre and post production.

However, as has been discussed both on TBBS and other, more Mac-centric forae, Apple's product line has a big gaping hole where a gaming Mac could be.

Something that would equal or out-perform Windows PCs at comparable prices, in the $1300 to $1999 range.

Something with these specs:


2.6 GHz Intel Core 2 Q6600 quad-core processor
OS X Leopard
2 GB 667MHz DDR2 RAM (total 4 slots)
450 GB Serial-ATA Hard Drive
nVidia GeForce 8800 GT (256MB DDR3) in one of two PCI-E slots
16x Superdrive
new flat keyboard and Mighty Mouse
iLife '08
iChat AV
iCal
Mail
Preview
Safari

$1299.99 (oops...cuts into iMac territory, could get ugly). Raise your hands if you'd pay that for a Mac Pro without monitor
 
Robert Maxwell said:
I'm sure you can find examples of Macs being cheaper than PCs, but it doesn't change that, on the average, Macs are generally more expensive.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that, either. Apple can charge whatever they think people will pay, and people are paying.

It's just not something I'd do. :)
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True enough but, If you owned one you'd change you mind i think. At least i know I did.
 
It's rumored that an update is coming, turning the Mac Mini into something like a Mac Nano or something, even smaller than it is now.
 
D Man said:
It's rumored that an update is coming, turning the Mac Mini into something like a Mac Nano or something, even smaller than it is now.
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I believe the "Mac Nano" is code for the upcoming sub-notebook which will certainly involve some kind of flash memory in place of a hard drive.
 
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