The wait for Ahsoka season 2 is even longer than what the wait between the original trilogy movies was.
New Data Suggests Long Waits Between Seasons Are Hurting Viewership on Netflix Hits
This is the problem generally when books are adapted into films. Series usually have enough time to do much more, but then there is also a dumbing down of the content. The better adaptations find ways around this. And the best adaptations exceed the book. I'd say Nightmare Alley is a good example of a film surpassing the source material.
And now, the same problem with The Gentleman on Prime. I remember really liking the first season. But after all this time, I have no desire to watch the second. I couldn't even really explain why.
I think the desire to keep watching is inversely proportional to the complexity of the plot. If the first season had an incredibly dense and convoluted storyline, one dreads having to remember every single detail in order to enjoy the second.
I think the desire to keep watching is inversely proportional to the complexity of the plot. If the first season had an incredibly dense and convoluted storyline, one dreads having to remember every single detail in order to enjoy the second.
It’s a shame about the death of the "movie star" concept and how the rise of streaming services killed off shows with 22–26 episode seasons, as well as mid-tier acting. The emergence of streaming platforms ruined everything. What was the actual upside of streaming, anyway? The US was already the world's leading exporter of shows, and audiences outside the US could already watch them at the same time they aired in America.
I don't think it will be able to continue as it has. While I don't believe that we're going to return to the broadcast/cable model, I could see a scenario where some sort of hybrid may emerge as a sustainable option.
The upside was no ads, not worrying about setting the DVR, and watching whenever you wanted. It was also priced a whole lot cheaper than cable at least when I signed up back in 2013 and cut the cord. The only alternative at that time was piracy. I even remember exchanging VHS tapes for anime as late as 2001.
I don't see a downside in getting rid of the 20+ episode series run. I say this as I'm binging season 5 of 24 with 24 episodes. However, I do think 8 episodes is not enough. 13-15 was ideal.
True, although Beartown was a series and while it technically did have enough time for it to develop, somehow it just did not resonate in the same way as the novel did. I think maybe that could be the result of the direction, which is a shame. Because I felt the novel had a lot to say about the effects of sports on kids.
Agreed. I think there comes a point where the number of episodes end up making viewers feel a bit cheated. And this is despite the fact that prices for these services keep going up.
I think you may have a point. Also some series will have too many characters. If you take two years to come back and your plot involves many characters, and the best you can do is a synopsis that still leaves you wondering what happened, failing to draw you back in, that is a problem.
Not necessarily. Sometimes there is a delay for when something is available, sometimes up to a month or more, and sometimes it means the show has already finished its season before it becomes available elsewhere. This is due to how streaming rights are negotiated, some of which have an exclusivity window. Makes it harder to have discussions about them.
Last edited:
But streaming platforms have ad-supported subscriptions, too?
That is literally the reason why I gave up on Wednesday. And I actually liked the first season!
There is an unspoken price, where folks will pay for streaming and not pirate content. We did see piracy drop off significantly when streaming became available. However, it's now coming back because of price. This is the problem with services raising prices. However, they need to make enough to stay in business.
What I'm not a fan of is "podcasts" on streaming services. It's basically another unscripted program. I do feel like we going back into the reality TV again as scripted is more expensive to produce.
I think there is also the issue of streaming services limiting the content available on their streaming services as well as the sheer number of services, each having their "must see" series and movies.
At least that one is based an already established IP. It must be even more of an uphill battle for something that has to build up recognition on its own merits. I had to stop watching one series for that reason. Liked the first season well enough, but only just. Second season took I think 3 years to come out after the first. In that amount of time, I'd completely forgotten who the characters were or why I should care for them, and the recap just left me feeling confused.
Disney+ just set the precedent of eliminating all ad-free tiers. We're right back to the days of cable.
Looks like that is Europe.
But I'd would expect Disney+ content being pirated to go through the roof following this change.
Disney also has a problem of releasing physical media, so that makes this even worse.
Long lag times are bad. I still haven't seen the second season of Carnival Row. And I prefer to avoid rewatching stuff unless at least a decade has passed.
It seems inevitable at this point. This was the next logical step.Someone else mentioned they may require a yearly subscription paid upfront. I suspect a few of them will try that. It's clear they're going to have to either keep raising prices, or offset it with ad revenue. I guess it's true. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Or they're going to start offering 2-year contracts similar to how cell phone contracts are sold. And that's not all that far off from what the telecoms are doing already when bundling the streaming services, if you think about it.
It was (very early on) supposed to be cheaper than cable and you had more control over what you watched.
The latter is still true, but yeah the 'cheaper than cable' (given that you have to pay for a Streaming device yourself as well as the Internet bandwidth) - if fast becoming 'not true' - plus the content is getting to be less, with long waits between seasons and more cheaply produced (and looks it) too.
Last edited:
That isn't entirely accurate. They are either produced with very high budgets, or they are made for the same cost as the seasonal budget of a 22-episode TV show.
Similar threads
