***STAR TREK MOVIE FAQ*** Originally compiled by Lord Garth Revised by cardinal biggles Version 1.0 — June 4, 2006 Version 1.1 — May 20, 2007 Version 1.2 — January 4, 2009 Version 1.2.5 — July 29, 2009 Version 2.0 — January 19, 2017 Lord Garth offered special thanks to cardinal biggles for his encyclopedic knowledge of Star Trek movies, Zeppster for the encouragement to type this, and Sir Rhosis who planted that insane idea into his head in the first place. cardinal biggles offers special thanks to Lord Garth for doing the main grunt work on this FAQ all those years ago; I would never have had the patience to see it through. __________________________________________________ The purpose of this FAQ is to provide information about questions asked frequently. It's not intended to be comprehensive and assumes you're already familiar with the movies. Categories are divided by subject. Discussion of the "Kelvinverse"/"Abramsverse" Star Trek films belongs in the Kelvin Universe Forum. This forum remains for discussion of the six TOS movies and four TNG movies. Table of Contents Part I. Khan Part II. Saavik Part III. Timeline Part IV. Uniforms/Ranks Part V. People Part VI. Miscellaneous __________________________________________________ Part I. Khan (Ricardo Montalban) 1. Is that really Ricardo Montalban's chest? Yes, believe it or not, it is. He was in pretty good shape. 2. Khan had a baby? There is a picture of a small child in the transporter room of the Reliant when Khan detonates the Genesis Device which has circulated around the Internet. The child was part of the film's shooting script, appearing twice: first, on Ceti Alpha V when Chekov and Terrell explore Khan's shelter (scene 18), and later in the Reliant's transporter room during the Genesis countdown (scene 213A). The scenes were filmed but cut (resulting in some jump cuts and looped dialogue between Chekov and Terrell), and the script was not clear who the child's parents were. 3. How does Khan know about Klingon proverbs? "Revenge is a dish that is best served cold" is actually a French proverb but, if the Klingons had a similar proverb, by coincidence, then it's possible that Khan got the information while he was reading the Enterprise's computer library in "Space Seed". 4. How does Khan know Chekov in The Wrath of Khan? Quite right. "Space Seed" was a first season episode and Chekov wasn't introduced until the second. Two common rationalizations are that Chekov was in the lowerdecks at the time or that he just wasn't seen. Any other rationalizations can be used as well. Although not canon, Greg Cox's 2005 novel To Reign in Hell: The Exile of Khan Noonien Singh has a brief scene at the beginning of the book with Chekov assigned by Kirk to give supplies and a phaser to Khan and his followers before the Enterprise warps away. __________________________________________________ Part II. Saavik (Kirstie Alley, Robin Curtis) 1. Saavik is half-Romulan?! That depends. It's written in the script for TWOK that she's half-Romulan but it's never mentioned on-screen. TSFS and TVH treat Saavik as a full-Vulcan. If you want to use the scripts to fill in gaps, then she's half-Romulan. If you only want to stick to canon (i.e. what's said onscreen), she's not. 2. Why the change in actresses from TWOK to TSFS? Blame Kirstie Alley's agent. 3. Valeris was originally supposed to be Saavik in TUC? Nick Meyer originally wanted to use Saavik in TUC and he wanted to use Kirstie Alley. There were two problems with that: Kirstie Alley had become too expensive (thanks to her co-starring role on Cheers), and Gene Roddenberry was complaining Saavik was a beloved character who shouldn't be in a conspiracy. So, to avoid having to cast Saavik a third time and to make Gene shut up, he changed the name to Valeris and cast Kim Cattrall (his first choice to play Saavik all the way back in 1981). 4. Did young regenerating Spock and Saavik get it on? "It is called pon farr." 5. Saavik was pregnant with Spock's child? That's what's in the commentary for TVH says and is what's implied in cut scenes from the script. Like the half-Romulan story, if you go by the script, then yes, if you go by canon, then no. __________________________________________________ Part III. Timeline 1. Wait a minute. Are you telling me a decade passed between TMP and TWOK? Before I answer, TOS and TOS movie chronologies are among the most hotly debated subjects. Continuing on. TMP is said to take place only two-and-a-half years after the five-year mission. TWOK is stated to take place 15 years after "Space Seed". So imagine the 10-year break Star Trek had in real life as happening between TMP and TWOK instead of between TOS and TMP. 2. What are the official dates of the TOS movies? According to the Star Trek Chronology, written in 1993 by Michael & Denise Okuda, the conjectural dates are: TMP: 2271 TWOK: 2285 TSFS: 2285 TVH: 2286 TFF: 2287 TUC: 2293 3. So what's the dispute? TMP taking place 2.5 years after the five-year mission is iron-clad, but the dispute was over whether or not TOS showed the first three years of the five-year mission, the middle three, the last three, or all five in three seasons. There was even debate over what calendar years TOS takes place. VOY's "Q2" states the five-year mission ended in 2270. So, the earliest TMP can take place, canonically, is 2272 or 2273. TWOK, TSFS, TVH, and TFF all take place one right after another, with the longest established gap being between TSFS and TVH (the latter includes Kirk's log entry "We are in the third month of our Vulcan exile"). There are arguments that TWOK takes place in the early-2280's, 2283 at the earliest (based on the vintage of Kirk's Romulan Ale), as well as arguments that TVH takes place in the mid-2280s, specifically 2286. What affects one movie affects all four. Other dates have been suggested as well, but they're all within the 2280s. In TUC, McCoy states he's served aboard the Enterprise for 27 years. It's assumed he's including time off. If the five-year mission started in 2265, then a case can made for 2292. 2291 if McCoy's rounding up and 2293 if McCoy's rounding down. 4. When do the TNG movies take place? This one's much easier: GEN - 2293* and 2371 FC - 2373 INS - 2375 NEM - 2379 * If you think of TUC as taking place in 2293 then one common thought that goes along with it is that TUC and the 23rd Century porition of GEN take place on opposite ends of the year. __________________________________________________ Part IV. Uniforms/Ranks 1. Is Scotty a Captain or Commander? Scotty is promoted to "Captain of Engineering" in TSFS. He wears a Commander's pin again in TVH. From TFF on, he's back to Captain. Maybe Scotty thought he lost his promotion after stealing the Enterprise and was relieved to find out otherwise when the charges were dropped. 2. Is Colonel West a marine? According to Memory Alpha: "West was named after Lt. colonel Oliver North, who participated in the Iran–Contra Affair. In fact, West was styled after North and was essentially a thinly veiled political jab made by [writer-director] Nick Meyer." As to whether West was a Starfleet Marine, it remains uncertain. There's also the issue of West's uniform: West wears the rank insignia of a Vice Admiral, which would be equivalent to a Lt. General if there were Starfleet Marines and their ranks had the same parallel with Starfleet as the modern-day U.S. Navy and Marine Corps. If West were a Lt. Colonel or Colonel, he should be wearing the insignia of a Commander or Captain. 3. Who was wearing a DS9 uniform on the set of GEN? Riker, Data, Geordi, and then Picard switch over to DS9 uniforms. Since the uniform changes always went from TNG-style to DS9 and not the other way around, it's speculated that GEN caught the Enterprise-D crew in the middle of a uniform switchover. 4. Why was Worf back in a Starfleet uniform? Didn't John Logan bother to watch DS9? In a cut line from NEM, Worf said he wasn't suited to life as an Ambassador. __________________________________________________ Part V. People For the actors who played Khan and Saavik, see their respective categories 1. List of major actors/production figures from the films who have passed away: Dame Judith Anderson (T'Lar) Majel Barrett (Christine Chapel in TMP & TVH; computer voice in GEN-NEM) Harve Bennett (Producer, TWOK-TFF; story, TWOK & TFF; writer/co-writer, TSFS & TVH; "Admiral Bob" in TFF) Bibi Besch (Carol Marcus) Merritt Buttrick (David Marcus) James Doohan (Scotty) Denny Martin Flinn (co-writer, TUC) Jerry Goldsmith (composer, TMP, TFF, FC-NEM) James Horner (composer, TWOK & TSFS) DeForest Kelley (McCoy) Persis Khambatta (Ilia) Mark Lenard (Sarek; Klingon commander in TMP) Hal Michelson (production designer, TMP) Mike Minor (production illustrator, TMP; art director, TWOK) Ricardo Montalban (Khan) Leonard Nimoy (Spock; director, TSFS & TVH; story, TVH & TUC, executive producer, TUC) Bob Peak (poster art, TMP-TFF) Brock Peters (Admiral Cartwright) Michael Piller (writer, INS) Gene Roddenberry (producer, TMP) Leonard Rosenman (composer, TVH) Jack B. Sowards (writer, TWOK) Grace Lee Whitney (Janice Rand) Paul Winfield (Captain Terrell) Robert Wise (director, TMP) Jane Wyatt (Amanda Grayson, TVH) 2. Why was Judson Scott (a.k.a. "Joachim") uncredited in TWOK? Blame it on his agent. __________________________________________________ Part VI. Miscellaneous 1. How did the Borg Queen survive Wolf 359? Presumably every cube has a Borg Queen and, if the Borg have a hive mind, then the information from one Borg Queen would be known by another. 2. Why is the Klingon blood purple in TUC? So Colonel Worf could tell Colonel West's blood wasn't Klingon. True story. 3. What's with the Klingon under the toppling tree shot in TSFS? It's called a blooper. 4. Will the TMP Director's Edition ever be released on Blu-ray? We'll see. According to David C. Fein, one of the producers of the 2001 Director's Edition, the new CGI elements created for the Director's Edition (i.e., the models of the Enterprise and V'Ger) were made with an eye toward high-definition. For budgetary reasons, they were rendered at 480p, a level good enough for a DVD and VHS release in 2001, but not the 1080p required for Blu-ray, or the higher resolutions needed for the newer 4K UHD format. It would cost money to re-render the effects, and so far the sales of Paramount's previous Blu-ray releases of the TOS films haven't been strong enough to convince them to spend the money. __________________________________________________ DISCLAIMER: Permission to reproduce this document anywhere on the Internet is granted so long as the author is credited. Suggestions for future updates, though not promised, should be posted in this thread.