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New Adam Curtis Documentary

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A new Adam Curtis documentary series starts tonight on BBC Two. It's called All Watched Over By Machines of Loving Grace, in it he argues that computers haven't empowered but have kept us enslaved while giving us the appearance of choice and freedom.

Long trailer here.
 
Did anyone watch? I thought it was great. Not really anything you didn't know but everything's linked together and presented in such a way as to make you really think.
 
I turned it off half-way through. It was just getting interesting and then it gave way to a really musical piece. I'll probably watch the rest, but that really made my interest wane.
 
Ditto catching it on iPlayer (or if some kind soul puts it on Youtube :p)

I've enjoyed what he did before for full series or snippets for Charlie Brooker.
 
Finally caught it last night. It was very interesting, although it did seem a bit unfocused at times. The stuff about Ayn Rand was interesting, especially given what a curious person she was, yet so many people still venerate the philosophy she came up with, seems she couldn't even stick to it herself which is odd.

I wondered where he was going with the Clinton/Lewlinski stuff, couldn't figure if he was trying to suggest the story broke because the banks were punishing him or what?

The point about the West bailing out the Far East so that, in effect, they were bailing out themselves was interesting, as was all the stuff about China playing the US at its own game now. Not stuff we didn't know, but still interesting nonetheless.

I liked some of the little throwaway stuff as well, like the woman who says we commodify out emotions now. I guess Twitter/Facebook and even this forum to an effect bear that out...

And I love it when he plays John Carpenter soundtracks!

Next week's looks interesting.
 
^I think the Clinton stuff was basically to show how handing control over to the markets left the world vulnerable, and the president was too mired in his own stuff to see what was actually happening around him.
 
Yeah I guess, it just seemed like he was going somwhere with it, particularly with reference to Lewinski's friend. I kept expecting him to reveal she was Ayn Rand's grand daughter or something! (maybe I've been watching too much B5 lately, seeing conspiracy everywhere...)
 
Still haven't caught the Rand one but saw the second on (self-regulating systems?). Either it didn't make much sense (in an argument/thesis way - other than what was obviously stated) or was way over my head. Probably the second...:). Though was joyed to hear one of fave bands as opening music...
 
I thought it made sense. The eco-system doesn't self regulate, it's in a constant state of flux with or without man interfering, so selling us on the idea that systems find a natural state of equilibrium is wrong, whether applied to nature or humans, is complete nonsense but people seem to like the idea and keep returning to it.
 
Yeah that seemed to be the crux of it, interesting to note yet again that the form of democracy we have, whilst not perfect, probably is the best model. Winston was right :)

I didn't enjoy as much as the first part bu wasn't giving it nearly enough attention.
 
The bit about the revolutions in Eastern Europe was really interesting, especially in context of the Arab Spring...
 
Possibly, although obviously the revolutions that spread through Eastern Europe circa 1990 have had more of a lasting outcome.
 
Possibly, although obviously the revolutions that spread through Eastern Europe circa 1990 have had more of a lasting outcome.
Oh no doubt there'll be lasting effects, whether it seems like it from an outsider view or not I'm sure the revolutions will have long term and unforeseen effects
 
What did people think of the last part? I think I found it a lot more interesting than part two, but then I also paid more attention to this one! The stuff about Rwanda, The Congo and Dian Fossy was very interesting. Easy to forget that in many ways the Belgians were the worst of the colonial powers.
 
I liked all three parts, thought the second was better than the first and the third was about the same. I love the way he connects things and makes them seem obvious and you wonder why you never saw the connection before.

Adam Curtis has said he's been inspired by shows like The Wire and The Shadow Line for his next series of films, if they get commissioned, they will be about managerialism and criminalism mirror each other. Like how the drugs trade seems to be run much like a corrupt business.
 
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