Need Starship Bridge Help....

[K'riq Sa]

Hi Guys,

Working on one of the ships for a Fanflick I am filming. The ship the SS Einstein X101-A is Pre-Enterprise, and here is a copy of the bridge layout that I have tried my hand at.

Any Help or Suggestions is greatly appreciated...

Does anybody here have time to help do a better job? 3D version would be excellent, 2D would be ok too.


Here is ship info >>>>> CLICK HERE! <<<<<







K'riq Sa
Minister of the Church of the Devil Dogs

 

[FalTorPan]

Have you established a scale for this design yet? Either the chairs seem quite large, or the rooms at the back seem quite small.

 

[Griffworks]

I agree w/Fal Tor Pan that the proportions look off on your bridge, re: the seats. Will the CO's seat set higher, as well? Also looks like it'd be one cramped place.

And why would you want/need a VIP Suite on the bridge?

 

[K'riq Sa]

Well first off, I am not an artist. I am working on a full-size set of the bridge so I was thinking the whole circular unit is about 30'. Not a large bridge, like enterprise or later ships, the amount of space relegated to the bridge is not given a lot a room, due to the ships being smaller. I kinda went with a loose scale.

K'riq

 

[Albertese]

Hey Man! How's your project going? Sorry i havn't drawn anything for you since those couple ships. I got a lot of other stuff I have to devote my time to so I don't really have much time for trek stuff.

Anyhow, are you still planning on using my design for the Einstein? If so, I had imagined the bridge to have actual windows looking forward. But if you can't do this for technical reasons that's understandable. Also, i had pictured it with more of a square plan and a NASA/nuclear sub feel to it, more than even in Enterprise.

I would love to find time to actually draw something up, but unfortunatly I have no technical means to upload images right now. If you want, I could do some sketches and snail mail them to you, but I'm gearing up to move so it'll be a few weeks til I get a chance to really do anything. More time for ideas to stew...

If you're interested, PM me your addy and I'll see if I can get anything together.....

 

[K'riq Sa]

Some of Mr. Albertese's work for those of you who don't know his work....

(3D version thanks to blaxxer also a local on this board)

 

[FalTorPan]

I like it!

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Okay, my thoughts re: this bridge:

1) What's the nature of this ship? The organization and hardware present will be related to how big the ship is, what it's role is, etc, etc. A freighter, for instance, will have a significantly different layout than, say, a surveyor, which will h ave a significantly different layout than, say, a Corvette, and so on.

In other words... how many people are going to be in there, and what are their jobs. DON'T just fill positions because "Trek always has them." Make it make sense.

Once you know who's going to be there, and what they'll be doing up there... then, and only then, should you start laying things out.

2) Avoid being a slave to your preconceptions. For instance, I'm a big opponent of having Pre-TNG-era ships have "Captain's Ready Rooms" at all. It's something you've gotten used to having, but it's a LUXURY that a massive ship like the Galaxy could afford. It's something that smaller ships probably wouldn't have. Especially if the captain's cabin is within a minute or so from the bridge, and there's a briefing room nearby. You need that separate room if the bridge is the equivalent of "the other side of town" as would be the case with a Galaxy... but otherwise, I'd tend to leave it out.

3) Does the bridge WORK BEST based upon circular shapes? I mean, really, you're not truly using a circular bridge anyway, are you? Put the chairs, the consoles, the displays... all of those in a fashion that makes sense as a working environment. THEN build walls around that.

It seems to me that this ship's bridge is probably going to resemble something more like a smaller size "Defiant-class" bridge, probably with a feel more like the "Balance of Terror" Romulan Bridge (ie, cramped and with minimal space to move around).

Anyway... those are my thoughts. It's your project, so obviously, do as you see fit.

 

[K'riq Sa]

Well in all honesty that is my version of the bridge and like CL said, it is based on mostly what is expected to be there. Not to mention this particular version was based around the needs of another project, thinking I could fit the two together, but that, alas, can not be the case.

In all fairness Albertese had a more realistic version of what the Bridge would look like:

Bridge: actually I was thinking of a more "Wing Commander" style bridge with real viewports and a more angular naval feel. The exterior shape is derived from the shape of earlier mid- to late-21st century ships like the Valiant, which

As cool as the forward viewer is, I think the idea of a window would have a good retro feel and back date it from the later shows. I guess you would lose the ability to go to "Full magnification" but I think that's an acceptable loss. As far as the visual effects go, if you were prepared to do a big viewscreen, then a window is pretty much the same thing.

Now for me I think this would be fine for the SS New York X-102 which is a ship based on Tactical and Defense Missions whereas the SS Einstein is a Medical and Exploration ship (my idea is the same ship shown above but without the mission pod on the front, with the ability to have a complete arc in the front of the hull, you would have the circular bridge.

Cary L. Brown said:
Okay, my thoughts re: this bridge:

1) What's the nature of this ship? The organization and hardware present will be related to how big the ship is, what it's role is, etc, etc. A freighter, for instance, will have a significantly different layout than, say, a surveyor, which will h ave a significantly different layout than, say, a Corvette, and so on.

In other words... how many people are going to be in there, and what are their jobs. DON'T just fill positions because "Trek always has them." Make it make sense.

Once you know who's going to be there, and what they'll be doing up there... then, and only then, should you start laying things out.

Ok, there will be two starships assigned to the Mars station, one, the SS Einstein, a Medical ship and two, the "SS New York" (shown above) a Military based ship. Crew complement of 20. More info and technical data can be found here;

>>>> CLICK HERE! <<<<<

Avoid being a slave to your preconceptions. For instance, I'm a big opponent of having Pre-TNG-era ships have "Captain's Ready Rooms" at all. It's something you've gotten used to having, but it's a LUXURY that a massive ship like the Galaxy could afford. It's something that smaller ships probably wouldn't have. Especially if the captain's cabin is within a minute or so from the bridge, and there's a briefing room nearby. You need that separate room if the bridge is the equivalent of "the other side of town" as would be the case with a Galaxy... but otherwise, I'd tend to leave it out.

3) Does the bridge WORK BEST based upon circular shapes? I mean, really, you're not truly using a circular bridge anyway, are you? Put the chairs, the consoles, the displays... all of those in a fashion that makes sense as a working environment. THEN build walls around that.

It seems to me that this ship's bridge is probably going to resemble something more like a smaller size "Defiant-class" bridge, probably with a feel more like the "Balance of Terror" Romulan Bridge (ie, cramped and with minimal space to move around).

Anyway... those are my thoughts. It's your project, so obviously, do as you see fit.

Ok guilty as charged, that is why I was looking for help from people who were not so suseptable to the fanwank (me). I am not attached to the bridge above it was just my first impression of the type of bridge I would thought I would be using and it was just a place to start from. I personally am not fixated on anything at this point so I am open to all.






bothly,

K'riq Sa
Minister of the Church of Micondral Hymns