Need help finding the older TOS Hardcovers

[mindx2]

My journey back into Treklit has gotten my collecting juices flowing! I have been able to get almost every Pocket Book (1st printing in at least FN+ condition). I've found many of the old TOS book club and Greg Press versions but can't find a few.

Does anyone here know where I can find these titles in hardcover:
Ishmael, Killing Time, Dwellers in the Crucible, Pawns and Symbols, Mindshadow, Shadow Lord.

I've checked the usual places like ebay but just can't find these.

Any help (suggestions, links, etc.) is greatly appreciated!!

 

[timothy]

either half price books or amazon. that's my best guess.

 

[Christopher]

Does anyone here know where I can find these titles in hardcover:
Ishmael, Killing Time, Dwellers in the Crucible, Pawns and Symbols, Mindshadow, Shadow Lord.

All of those were originally published as paperbacks. Indeed, they all predate the first hardcover Trek novel from Pocket. If there were hardcover versions, they would've had to be book club editions, which might be hard to find.

 

[mindx2]

Does anyone here know where I can find these titles in hardcover:
Ishmael, Killing Time, Dwellers in the Crucible, Pawns and Symbols, Mindshadow, Shadow Lord.

All of those were originally published as paperbacks. Indeed, they all predate the first hardcover Trek novel from Pocket. If there were hardcover versions, they would've had to be book club editions, which might be hard to find.

I know they were originally printed as paperbacks. I have those 1st printings but I have a fondness for the hardcover versions. The six I mentioned are just very hard to track down.

 

[vegaslover62]

www.abebooks.com

Big online retailer of out-of-print books.

 

[Christopher]

I know they were originally printed as paperbacks. I have those 1st printings but I have a fondness for the hardcover versions. The six I mentioned are just very hard to track down.

But my point is, are you sure there ever were hardcover versions? Like I said, Pocket never released any. Somebody else would've had to do it.

 

[mindx2]

But my point is, are you sure there ever were hardcover versions? Like I said, Pocket never released any. Somebody else would've had to do it.

This thread: http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=146645
Seems others have these in hardcover.

 

[Therin of Andor]

But my point is, are you sure there ever were hardcover versions? Like I said, Pocket never released any. Somebody else would've had to do it.

Yep, the Gregg Press hardcovers, a little larger in format than MMPBs, popular with libraries of the day. My local SF bookshop sold them (actually they were from Firecrest!)*

According to Steve Roby at http://www.well.com/~sjroby/lcars/tosindex.html#hc
Gregg Press was conceived by David Hartwell and consisted of:

(Star Trek 2) The Entropy Effect
(Star Trek 3) The Klingon Gambit
(Star Trek 4) The Covenant of the Crown
(Star Trek 5) The Prometheus Design
(Star Trek 6) The Abode of Life
(Star Trek 7) Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
(Star Trek 8) Black Fire
(Star Trek 9) Triangle
(Star Trek 10) Web of the Romulans
(Star Trek 11) Yesterday's Son
(Star Trek 12) Mutiny on the Enterprise
(Star Trek 13) The Wounded Sky
(Star Trek 15) Corona
(Star Trek 16) The Final Reflection
(Star Trek 17) Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
(Star Trek 19) The Tears of the Singers
(Star Trek 21) Uhura's Song

"Ishmael", "Killing Time", "Dwellers in the Crucible", "Pawns and Symbols", "Mindshadow" and "Shadow Lord" aren't mentioned on the list, but I know I've seen some of these in hardcover. Hartwell's full list is at:
http://www.kathryncramer.com/gregg_update.html

* Ah, this could be it! From the other thread on hardcovers:

A UK publisher called Firecrest published British editions of most of the Gregg titles (same covers, same sizes.) After Gregg was shut down, Firecrest published 6 additional titles in 1987 on their own. These six are pretty rare -- I've never seen a copy of the Firecrest "Ishmael" for sale anywhere at any price.

eg. http://www.amazon.com/Ishmael-Firecrest-Books-Barbara-Hambly/dp/0859979245

The Topeka Bindery library edition is $318.51.

 

[mindx2]

eg. http://www.amazon.com/Ishmael-Firecrest-Books-Barbara-Hambly/dp/0859979245

The Topeka Bindery library edition is $318.51.

OUCH!!!

 

[Steve Roby]

Did not know about the Firecrest editions. Interesting.

 

[OmahaStar]

Odd ... Vulcan Academy Murders isn't on that list, but I have a hardcover copy in storage.

 

[Daddy Todd]

Odd ... Vulcan Academy Murders isn't on that list, but I have a hardcover copy in storage.

The Science Fiction Book Club did "Vulcan Academy Murders" as a reprint hardcover.

There is some overlap between SFBC and Gregg/Firecrest, but not a lot. If SFBC did it first, then Gregg would sometimes do it, as with "The Wounded Sky." Sometimes not, as with "My Enemy, My Ally."