My theory on Ash Tyler

[Mel Tenorio]

I don't believe he's a Klingon spy or a surgically altered Klingon or Voq. I believe him to be a Section-31 operative or from the Mirror Universe

As for his intentions they are still unclear. It is however evident he wants to know the crew and gain their trust. And now he's chief of security.

I hope he's not Voq as it would be too predictable.

 

[Nerys Myk]

My newest theory is Ash is Ash and Voq is Lorca. Cornwell will run across the real Lorca in prison.

 

[Rich]

If ash is not Voq then I am curious to see what actually did happen to Voq.

 

[Nerys Myk]

If ash is not Voq then I am curious to see what actually did happen to Voq.

He started the Hair Club For Men, Q'oNos.

 

[Ithekro]

Be funny of they ran into one of those alternate universes while screwing up their Spore Drive, and they enter one were the humans and Klingons are allies, and Voq is on the ship like its his normal everyday thing...and there is no Ash Tyler.

 

[MrPointy]

I believe Ash is really a man named Clem Fandango.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

I believe Ash is really a man named Clem Fandango.

'Yes I can hear you, Clem Fandango with your made up name'

 

[The Habs Fan]

He started the Hair Club For Men, Q'oNos.

I'm also on the Lorca is Voq bandwagon (and that the switch happened when Lorca was imprisoned on the Klingon ship in episode 5.

 

[Michael]

Everyone is Voq. In a transporter mishap the original Voq was split into 131 () duplicates, after which they were all surgically altered to look like a legit Starfleet crew, put aboard a Starfleet vessel.

 

[Guy Gardener]

What's been making me feel queasy about this name?

"Ayesha Tyler".

 

[Tomalak]

My newest theory is Ash is Ash and Voq is Lorca. Cornwell will run across the real Lorca in prison.

This actually makes more sense for me. The Ash/Voq thing is almost too obvious that it would be disappointing. "Introduce new character who turns out to be a spy" isn't exactly original.

 

[MarsWeeps]

I'm also on the Lorca is Voq bandwagon (and that the switch happened when Lorca was imprisoned on the Klingon ship in episode 5.

That's the latest theory making its rounds on the web. There's also a thread here on TrekBBS, which showed Jason Isaacs posting a time lapse video of him getting his face cast, but the video was removed shortly after. Wonder what that was for?

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/jason-issacs-face-cast.287770/

Found a link that still works:

https://trekmovie.com/2017/06/24/st...sk-doug-jones-action-mishap-and-starfleet-hq/

 

[Big Data]

I don't think either one of them is Voq. Too convincingly human.

 

[Big Data]

Doesn't mean Ash Tyler isn't working for the Klingons though.

 

[Mudd]

Trying to give the producers a lot of credit, I like the idea that the use of Latif's name for the non-existent actor supposed to be playing Voq is misdirection and that the Klingon has been transformed into Lorca. That would be clever, if very implausible. But what the fuck, this is Star Trek.

Of course, one has to explain the inconsistencies of Tyler's claims about his captivity. Maybe he's hiding something else.

 

[GeekUSACarl]

I don't believe he's a Klingon spy or a surgically altered Klingon or Voq. I believe him to be a Section-31 operative or from the Mirror Universe

As for his intentions they are still unclear. It is however evident he wants to know the crew and gain their trust. And now he's chief of security.

I hope he's not Voq as it would be too predictable.

If he aint Voq, then he's probably the new "most interesting man in the world"

 

[GeekUSACarl]

Trying to give the producers a lot of credit, I like the idea that the use of Latif's name for the non-existent actor supposed to be playing Voq is misdirection and that the Klingon has been transformed into Lorca. That would be clever, if very implausible. But what the fuck, this is Star Trek.

Of course, one has to explain the inconsistencies of Tyler's claims about his captivity. Maybe he's hiding something else.

I thought Lorca being a Klingon woulda been clever, and though I never fully purchased the idea I was kinda holding out hope,

I think that this last episode dashed what little hope in the idea I had. I think the writers kinda cemented the idea that Lorca is a human, just a douchebag human slowly losing his redeemable qualities.

 

[Mudd]

Well, if Lorca is Voq one would expect him to deliver the 'Shroom drive to the Klingons as his very first order of business.

He hasn't done that.

What are the other possibilities? That the Klingons already know of a fatal flaw in Shrooming, and are determined to keep that Starfleet project going until it costs the Feds the war?

That would explain why the drive disappears from 23rd century technology almost immediately. OTOH, Lorca was so determined to use it himself that there'd be no clear reason to replace him.

 

[Guy Gardener]

There are dumb klingons.

We have not met many of them.

Most of the Klingons on screen to some degree have been astronauts.

Highly educated scientists.

Although to get anywhere as a Klingon requires politicking, which means that they have to pretend that it's a thousand years ago still, or they lose their jobs.

 

[GeekUSACarl]

What are the other possibilities? That the Klingons already know of a fatal flaw in Shrooming, and are determined to keep that Starfleet project going until it costs the Feds the war?

That would explain why the drive disappears from 23rd century technology almost immediately.

I think the answer will be revealed once the Tardigrade invasion force is revealed in episode 11.

Water Bears be pissed!