More Theories-Spoilers up to Under the Sea

[Temis the Vorta]

I didn't think MIB was very evil before he went into the cave! He was just pushed beyond his tolerance levels. Maybe he acted rashly, but being raised on a isolated island by a crazy woman who tends to kill people for no apparent reason can do that to a guy.

So if Smokey is evil - and it sure does act evil a lot - I don't see how MIB's soul is responsible. Unless he's just gone crazy. But crazy isn't evil.

 

[Hober Mallow]

Ready, set, theorize!

Ok, a few things:

-Jacob and brother's other 'mother': was she Eve? ("I was brought here too i.e. when cast out of paradise?)

Biblical Eve? No. Biblical Eve wasn't immortal.

-Did she then become the smoke monster (and able to kill all the original 'others'?)

Possibly. It would explain 1)how she knew going into the cave would be a fate worse than death, 2)how she could overpower and kill a whole village, and 3)why she thanks MIB for killing her and setting her free. It doesn't explain... well, how she could be killed by a blade in the first place. But was that the same blade used to kill Jacob? Maybe that's the key. And maybe that's how MIB can be killed.

-Jacob (light imagery) and brother (dark imagery): if our losties are candidates for their replacements, our main guys are Sawyer (blonde) and Jack (dark)...hmmmm...

Locke doesn't want a replacement. He wants the candidates dead so he can leave the island.

I have a feeling Jacob finished building the Donkey Wheel. How else would he have known to move the Island back in Season 4?

Jacob wasn't the one who told Locke to move the island. It was MIB diguised as Christian who told Locke to move the island.

Since there's a skeleton for Brother in Black, I will assume Smoke Monster took on Brother in Black's form just to mess with Jacob's head. (Even though I thought one brother couldn't kill another brother...)

No, MIB is Smokey. His consciousness, anyway. Even though he looks like Locke now, he still speaks as though he were Jacob's brother, talks about his crazy mother, etc. And, most importantly, the rules about not killing Jacob still apply to him. If Smokey weren't actually MIB, he would have been able to kill jacob.

 

[RoJoHen]

I have a feeling Jacob finished building the Donkey Wheel. How else would he have known to move the Island back in Season 4?

Jacob wasn't the one who told Locke to move the island. It was MIB diguised as Christian who told Locke to move the island.

Christian...Jacob...MiB...time-traveling bunnies...

You really expect me to keep this shit straight?

 

[Hober Mallow]

Christian...Jacob...MiB...time-traveling bunnies...

You really expect me to keep this shit straight?

I can't imagine what it's like for a new fan who's just started watching the series to pop in here and read something like, "Ben turned the frozen donkey wheel and it sent everyone back in time, but the Smoke monster, disguised as Jack's dad, really wanted Locke to turn it, so he made him do it again, which sent Locke to Tunisia, where we was tasked with getting the Oceanic Six to come back to the island. Meanwhile, Sawyer and Juliet and the others end up in the 1970s where they join the Dharma initiative. But Daniel has a plan to blow up a hydrogen bomb. Back in 2007, Smokey, disguised as Locke, plans to kill Jacob, the islands protector, who lives in the four-toed foot of an ancient Egyptian statue."

Imagine reading that after watching the first season episode where they're just looking for water.

 

[RoJoHen]

Imagine reading that after watching the first season episode where they're just looking for water.

I think this is why Season 1 is still my favorite, because everything about it is so innocent and naive. Little did they what was to come.

What's annoying to me is that I've rewatched the series 3 times now, and I still forget things (mostly a lot of the cabin/Jacob/Christian/Claire stuff).

I can't wait to rewatch it when it's all over. I have a feeling a lot of it is going to make a lot more (if not complete) sense.

 

[Tom Hendricks]

I have a question, if Smokey wants to "leave" the island. Doesn't he want to return to the "light?" So in fact isn't he trying to find the way back to the cave and not necessarily off the island itself?

 

[Mallet]

The big question is, if Smokie and jacob can't leave the Island, why have we seen them off of the Island?

 

[Hunter X]

Mark Pellegrino theorized in an interview I've read recently that Jacob can leave the Island because he's the protector. That makes sense to me, since he also has the power to grant immortality and view people's lives from afar in a lighthouse mirror.

However, it does open up a rather large plot hole: if the protector can come and go as he pleases, and the crazy mother wanted the Man in Black to be the protector, why didn't she just tell him this to satiate his need to get off the Island.

Unless Jacob can only leave for very brief periods to do a specific job, and then he is pulled back in. Which probably wasn't the type of off-island life the Man in Black was looking for.

Interview is here. It's behind an "Are You Sure" button because he talks about the finale a little bit, but doesn't really give anything away.

 

[RoJoHen]

Mark Pellegrino theorized in an interview I've read recently that Jacob can leave the Island because he's the protector. That makes sense to me, since he also has the power to grant immortality and view people's lives from afar in a lighthouse mirror.

Maybe the lighthouse was how he was able to leave the island. Maybe the Jacob and Christian we saw in the real world was just a temporary reflection of their true selves still on the island.