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More Classic "Who" On North American DVD..."The War Games"!

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That long-awaited epic, the swansong of Patrick Troughton's Second Doctor, is finally getting a DVD release in North America. Mark your calendars for November 3.

From TVshowsonDVD.com

Oh yeah, and something from Peter Davison's era. :p
 
I only own a handful of "classic" Who DVDs but the The War Games is a must buy for me! Plus, the extras sound really good on this one.

I swear, my birthday is at the end of October, but all of the good DVDs seem to be coming out early November! Maybe I should delay the celebration by a week or two this year. :devil:
 
I'm waiting for The Chase, personally.

I found The War Games to be just a bit too long. It just meanders through until the final two episodes, which are really good.
 
I've been waiting for this release for a very long time. Sadly, I'm probably going to have to wait even longer. I'm currently stationed in Yokosuka, Japan, and while the Navy Exchange here sells R1 DVDs, they don't sell any Doctor Who DVDs (or ANY British media, for that matter). :( :scream:

Oh, I'm also very excited about the Black Guardian trilogy release, but again it's going to be awhile before I get it.
 
I'm waiting for my 2nd favorite Dr. Who story to come out on DVD: The Daemons (my favorite, The Inferno, I already own).
 
Last night I finished watching "The War Games" on DVD. I had never seen this story before, and I was surprised by how good it was!
 
You're joking right? I just finished it last night myself (well, 2 am this morning actually).

Quite enjoyed it. I'd have been more bothered by Jamie and Zoe's endings if I hadn't already known about them. And the special features are good (though I haven't made it through all of them yet).
 
No joke. Of course, the R1 DVD was only made available on Tuesday, wasn't it? I ordered it from Amazon.com.

I've not yet watched some of the extras myself. I thought the "Then and Now" extra was fun but sad, since so many people who were involved in the production of the story are no longer with us. The dissolves between footage of "The War Games" and contemporary photos made the characters from the episode seem ghostly.

I think Hartnell and Troughton are underappreciated today, probably since all of their stories were filmed in black-and-white, and so many of their stories no longer exist in their entirety. Hartnell was very capable of showing us a Doctor with a sense of humor, as shown in stories such as "The Time Meddler," and Troughton was equally capable of delivering a Doctor with a tragic vibe, as hinted in stories such as "The War Games" and "Tomb of the Cybermen."

In "The War Games," the War Chief, the War Lord, the Security Chief and Smythe were great villains. The dynamic between the Doctor, Jamie and Zoe was great, too. The story's huge cast kept this ten-part story from feeling stale. I've heard that many fans like this story mostly for its final episode, in which the Doctor is finally apprehended by the Time Lords, but I prefer the episodes leading up to the final one. The trial felt almost, but not quite, like it was tacked on.

I've been familiar with the "Season 6B" hypothesis -- the notion that the second Doctor underwent missions for the Time Lords' Celestial Intervention Agency sometime between his trial and his banishment to Earth -- for years, but this was my first time actually watching "The War Games." I don't know that I buy in to the "Season 6B" idea, but I enjoyed watching the second Doctor, Jamie and Zoe so much in this story that the kid in me imagines that the second Doctor had many more adventures than those seen in the television program.
 
I think Hartnell and Troughton are underappreciated today, probably since all of their stories were filmed in black-and-white, and so many of their stories no longer exist in their entirety. Hartnell was very capable of showing us a Doctor with a sense of humor, as shown in stories such as "The Time Meddler," and Troughton was equally capable of delivering a Doctor with a tragic vibe, as hinted in stories such as "The War Games" and "Tomb of the Cybermen."
Absolutely. I've watched all of the existing episodes and the fan reconstructions of the lost episodes, and after finishing The Second Doctor's run, he became my second favorite Doctor. The Second Doctor pushed The Seventh Doctor from that spot, which is pretty remarkable considering he has held that spot since my childhood. It tears me up that so much of Troughton's work is lost, probably forever. I would love to see such stories as The Faceless Ones, The Power of the Daleks (my second favorite Classic Dalek story), The Moonbase (one of my favorite Classic Cybermen stories), The Abominable Snowmen, and The Web of Fear (The Brigadier's first story!) in complete form. Alas. *sigh*

And not to feel slighted, but the same goes for The First Doctor to a lesser extent. The Tenth Planet (another favorite Classic Cybermen story), The Savages, The Massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve, The Crusade, The Reign of Terror, Nicholos Courtney's missing episodes in The Daleks' Master Plan (I don't really care for the rest of the story :p), and especially Marco Polo are all wonderful stories that I wish I could see in completion.

In "The War Games," the War Chief, the War Lord, the Security Chief and Smythe were great villains. The dynamic between the Doctor, Jamie and Zoe was great, too. The story's huge cast kept this ten-part story from feeling stale. I've heard that many fans like this story mostly for its final episode, in which the Doctor is finally apprehended by the Time Lords, but I prefer the episodes leading up to the final one. The trial felt almost, but not quite, like it was tacked on.
The War Games is not only my favorite Second Doctor story, it's also one of my favorite Doctor Who stories period. Some people complain about it being to long, but I think it's just right. I love The Paths of Glory feeling of the first couple of episodes and I love the peeling of an onion effect that the story gives. With each passing episode, The Doctor discovers a villain greater than the last as he slowly learns the true nature of everything that is going on. The trial at the end is merely icing on the cake. When I first saw the serial, I thought the trial was only in the final episode, so I was pleasantly surprised when Gallifrey was featured in two whole episodes.
 
Holy crap, I had forgotten about this! Sweet, will head into to town shortly to see if I can find a copy.

I remember seeing a pic, in the 80's of "the doctors before Baker" and being somewhat horrified that they got older as they went backwards. And these guys seemed to lack a certain....I dunno....handsomeness..usually found in actors.

Particularly the 2nd Doctor. I mean, I really couldn't believe these guys had been the Doctor and had their own adventures, they just did'nt look interesting at all. Quite the opposite.

Nowadays, those first two are at the top of my list of Doctors. Hartnell the original....excellent stuff, love it to death. Troughton, the second to play the part, is awesome as well. Of all the Doctors in "The Five Doctors" he intrigued me even more than the "1st Doctor" (who I knew even then wasn't Hartnell).

Troughton will always have an air of mystique about him because he's the "lost doctor". We know he had several years of adventures, we've got some clips and pictures of them....but we'll never really have more than that. Without getting the soundtrack or a book (neither of which will ever be like watching the ep) that's all we'll ever get. The imagination will have to fill in the rest, and in some ways that makes him the coolest of all because he's mostly what we imagine him to be.

So getting *ANY* Troughton ep is a joy for me.

Plus it doesn't hurt that, after years of watching Who, finding out that Zoe is prolly the hottest companion the Doc has ever had. And I'll take on anyone who sez other wise!!:techman:
 
My copy finally arrived today! Sadly I won't have any time to watch it for at least a week. :p
 
I think I need to make an addendum to my birthday list. Patrick Troughton is my favorite Doctor. He has such precise timing with his facial expressions and is always adding something interesting to his mannerisms.

I've been familiar with the "Season 6B" hypothesis -- the notion that the second Doctor underwent missions for the Time Lords' Celestial Intervention Agency sometime between his trial and his banishment to Earth -- for years, but this was my first time actually watching "The War Games." I don't know that I buy in to the "Season 6B" idea, but I enjoyed watching the second Doctor, Jamie and Zoe so much in this story that the kid in me imagines that the second Doctor had many more adventures than those seen in the television program.

It's not like the Season 6B theory is the fans' wishful thinking. I think the only reason why it's really taken hold is that it's the only way to really explain the 2nd Doctor's appearance in "The Two Doctors."

Plus it doesn't hurt that, after years of watching Who, finding out that Zoe is prolly the hottest companion the Doc has ever had. And I'll take on anyone who sez other wise!!:techman:

She's certainly up there. However, on my list, she's still lagging behind Susan Foreman (who reminds me a lot of a girl I know IRL) and Donna Noble (for me, versatile acting talent is the ultimate aphrodesiac:drool:).
 
Plus it doesn't hurt that, after years of watching Who, finding out that Zoe is prolly the hottest companion the Doc has ever had. And I'll take on anyone who sez other wise!!:techman:

For girls, I won't pick. Guys, there have been a few hotties, such as Jamie, Captain Jack, Adam, Adric, and Ben.
 
I think Hartnell and Troughton are underappreciated today, probably since all of their stories were filmed in black-and-white, and so many of their stories no longer exist in their entirety. Hartnell was very capable of showing us a Doctor with a sense of humor, as shown in stories such as "The Time Meddler," and Troughton was equally capable of delivering a Doctor with a tragic vibe, as hinted in stories such as "The War Games" and "Tomb of the Cybermen."
Absolutely. I've watched all of the existing episodes and the fan reconstructions of the lost episodes, and after finishing The Second Doctor's run, he became my second favorite Doctor. The Second Doctor pushed The Seventh Doctor from that spot, which is pretty remarkable considering he has held that spot since my childhood. It tears me up that so much of Troughton's work is lost, probably forever. I would love to see such stories as The Faceless Ones, The Power of the Daleks (my second favorite Classic Dalek story), The Moonbase (one of my favorite Classic Cybermen stories), The Abominable Snowmen, and The Web of Fear (The Brigadier's first story!) in complete form. Alas. *sigh*
I agree completely. Except about the Seventh Doctor, whose adventures I have yet to take part in.

I've been slowly coming back into DW the last week or so, ever since I found a DVD of Hartnell's "The Aztecs" at the library, and it got me zipping through the rest of the DVDs I had (which is sadly less than I'd like). I decided to save my Patrick Troughton stories for when I'm actually able to buy "The War Games" so I can have a little "Second Doctor Appreciation Weekend" or something to celebrate. :)
 
Plus it doesn't hurt that, after years of watching Who, finding out that Zoe is prolly the hottest companion the Doc has ever had. And I'll take on anyone who sez other wise!!:techman:

For girls, I won't pick. Guys, there have been a few hotties, such as Jamie, Captain Jack, Adam, Adric, and Ben.

Adric? Seriously?:wtf:

It's true, I'm his only fan. lol But he was gay in the Whoverse long before Captain Jack made it fashionable.
 
War Games on DVD? Sweet! I caught it at a convention back in 1983. Be prepared for the most grueling four and a half hours of your life. It's a good episode, but tough to sit for all 4 and half hours.
 
War Games on DVD? Sweet! I caught it at a convention back in 1983. Be prepared for the most grueling four and a half hours of your life. It's a good episode, but tough to sit for all 4 and half hours.

I watched it over two evenings, five episodes per evening. I didn't have a problem with it at all. :)
 
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