MLB Offseason: Owners got a dinger of a CBA

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  1. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Sports is more important because we treat athletes like gods. One of my friends has a boss who was a former Russian athlete. He could tell the government were to stick it over there and suffer no consequences. I work with kids daily and the exceptionalism and the emphasis on athletics is everywhere. Until people stop purchasing it that will not change.
     
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  2. Jim Klag

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    No. There are hundreds of thousands of teachers, cops and firemen. There are a few hundred Major League baseball players, only a few dozen of whom the fans would pay to see play.
     
  3. fireproof78

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    No what? The exceptionalism is what drives the god like status.
     
  4. BillJ

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    Because we don’t need hundreds of thousands of baseball (or any entertainers) players. They are a luxury that should pay a lot more in taxes than they do.
     
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    I'm pretty sure baseball players don't make tax laws. Bitch at your congressman/senators who also don't pay a lot of taxes.
     
  6. cardinal biggles

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    I bet baseball players pay more in taxes than the owners and teams do.
     
  7. fireproof78

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    And they should be paid a lot less.
     
  8. BillJ

    BillJ Former Democrat Premium Member

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    That is where taxes for both them and owners come into play. I don’t mind someone earning a lot of money off of the revenue they generate, but they should have a much higher tax burden.
     
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    I don't know. I've always found the sheer amount of money paid obscene. I'm all for people making money off their time and talents but it's just ridiculous to me when it comes to professional sports and the veneration they get.
     
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    Then what do you do with the revenue? Baseball makes a lot of money from a lot of different sources.
     
  11. cardinal biggles

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    Yeah, let's bring back the good old days when players made shit so the owners can rake in even more revenue. :rolleyes:

    Even better, bring back the reserve clause so those greedy fucks can learn their place again. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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  12. fireproof78

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    How about we stop giving them money? That's my wish, Christmas or no.

    Barring that, yes I believe the players should get more pieces of the money they make-that's what I meant that people should make money off of their talents. When I say "they should be paid a lot less" I mean all of professional sports, from the owners all the way down.

    That's my own personal, completely biased, opinion against professional sports. Thank you for attending. :beer:
     
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    MLB players (and other pro athletes) generate hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue, I don't begrudge them a single cent.
     
  14. fireproof78

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    I just begrudge the system.
     
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    A lot of analysts I follow seem to think that something will get done by February. I hope so, but is that supposed to be a drop dead date? They aren't even talking now (That I've heard) and they are far apart. Of course I remember the last NHL Lockout, and how they finally locked themselves into a room and negotiated for hours on a deal like that final day. Maybe something like that will happen, but I'm not really optimistic right now.
     
  16. Jim Klag

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    All of those revenue streams are linked back to the platyers. There would be precisely zero revenue without the guys who play the games.
     
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  17. Timby

    Timby HAVE YOU HEARD THE WORDS OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR Administrator

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    February 15 (-ish, various teams have different dates), which is when camps open for spring training, is generally considered to be the drop-dead date for a full 162-game season. But Bruce Meyer is holding firm and refusing to let the union get rolled like they did when Tony Clark negotiated the last CBA.

    This feels like a non-sensical statement to me. Labor is responsible for MLB making $14 billion a year, give or take. Why should labor not be paid? (Edit: And I should add that labor's share of revenues is the smallest it's been in like three decades.)
     
  18. fireproof78

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    I begrude the entire system that decides to spend 14 billion dollars on this (or any) sport).
     
  19. Timby

    Timby HAVE YOU HEARD THE WORDS OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR Administrator

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    Pre-pandemic, the movie business scored roughly $12 billion a year, domestically, just in terms of box-office receipts (to say nothing of home video and streaming revenue). Do you begrudge that system as well?
     
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    Then you just generally begrudge humanity, because we are the reason all that revenue goes to sports teams.
     
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