Discussion in 'Sports and Fitness' started by Timby, Mar 30, 2023.
That's 175 million too many dollars.
See, I might have kicked in some public money to improve the roads and access to the area, on the contingency that the public get a piece of ownership for its investment.
Yeah, about the only way I could support spending public money on a stadium is if the City retains ownership of the stadium and gets to profit from the team and vendors using it.
Definitely should never go that way, we’ve been killed here in Greater Cincinnati as the owners of Paycor Stadium and Great American Ballpark. Municipalities should settle for nothing less than a voting stake in the franchise.
Should have clarified that.
When the 1972 Winter Olympics were awarded to the city of Sapporo, the efforts put in to bring those Games to fruition were part of a broader suite of public works and infrastructure projects (such as the construction of the Namboku Line of the Sapporo Subway network) which were intended to provide long-term benefits to the city and its inhabitants at large. Since then, eight of the Games' venues have been in near-continuous use ever since (COVID-19 lockdowns notwithstanding) - indeed, should Sapporo's bid to host the 2030 Winter Olympics succeed, many of those same venues are expected to be used once again.
That said, the 2030 bid is currently on ice - but more due to the fallout from a corruption scandal which erupted in the wake of the Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympics, rather than any perceived shortcomings of the bid in and of itself. (Well, that, and the IOC taking a pause on their end, in order to review the very concept of the Winter Olympics as an ongoing event, in the face of pressing climate change concerns.)
But in this instance, the use of public funds to construct sports facilities was successful in large part due to it being part of a broader long-term project with clear goals, well executed, at multiple levels of government.
That said, Japan is by no means immune to the kind of corporate tactics employed all too often on this side of the Pacific. Much as I am impressed with the design and construction of the Fighters' new ballpark noted over in the 2023 NPB thread, part of the reason it exists is due to the municipality of Kitahiroshima successfully undercutting offers to keep the Fighters playing within the City of Sapporo.
Although, since one of those offers was reportedly to lock the Sapporo Dome permanently in its baseball configuration, that would not have been good news for the J.League club Hokkaido Consadole Sapporo...
Some other purpose built Olympics venues became ghost towns and probably didn't even pay for themselves.
It's a crapshoot.
The A's and Nevada have reached a tentative agreement on how much public funding will contribute to the $1.5 billion stadium.
It's telling that the statement doesn't say how much money is coming from the public's coffers. Pretty clear sign that at least one side doesn't like the optics.
Kyle Hendricks finally off the IL and set to start tonight vs the lolMets.
Here's hoping Kyle is all the way back and Jameson Tallion can be fired, into the sun, quickly.
This'll wind @Timby up for sure.
So basically Manfraud is perpetuating this shit, for the "integrity of the game" no doubt.
Not just Timby.
Fuck this shit.
These guys shouldn’t own teams if they can’t afford them.
For the last 5 "normal" years, the Brewhahas have taken in $250M - $295M per year. I reckon they could take out a loan for $448M if they need that much for upgrades, depending on what they have in their coffers at any given point.
But then also, it boils down to who owns a given stadium. Some teams own them outright where others lease them from the city/county/state(?) and then some part of the upkeep and upgrades really should come from the owning entity.
Building brand new stadiums is another thing with the cost nearing $1B each. They always claim there will be sooooo many jobs created, but most of those are the temporary jobs involved with building the damn things.
Mets have already DFA’d Gary Sanchez.
A bill was introduced in the Nevada Legislature yesterday that would contribute $380 million in public financing for a 30,000-seat, retractable-roof stadium for the A's.
It would be, by far, the smallest stadium in Major League Baseball, and Las Vegas would automatically become MLB's smallest television market.
Boneheaded players, boneheaded ball boys, boneheaded giveaways, boneheaded grounds crews, a machine injuring a player during the playoffs, it never ends.
$380 million that the poor, public safety, infrastructure and education will suffer with cuts, to cover a playpen for a billionaire. It really is a sad state of affairs.
I also laugh at the Vegas stadium having a retractable roof instead of it just being a domed stadium.
It's in the middle of the fucking desert. Stadiums just magnify the heat, and heat indices in Vegas easily hover around 120-130 in the summer.
And it's not like the A's are known for playing a bunch of postseason night games in October, when it actually does start to get cool in the middle of the fucking desert.
He forgot about the Chi-Sox Disco Demo promo.
Does anyone here wear a pro fitted baseball cap? Haven't worn one in ages and want to get one, but I'm not sure about proper size. Both the 5/8 and 3/4 cap feel like they fit perfectly. Does that mean they're both fine? Is there anything I need to take into consideration?
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