MLB 2017: Trades!

Discussion in 'Sports and Fitness' started by Timby, Apr 3, 2017.

  1. Tom Hendricks

    Tom Hendricks That boy is our last hope, NO! there is another. Premium Member

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    Mets trade Jay Bruce to the Indians. Goodbye and good riddance.
     
  2. Timby

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    A corner outfielder with 29 dingers and a 116 OPS+ on the season isn't exactly a black hole on your roster, especially if you're the Mets.

    And considering all the Mets got in return was some salary relief and a guy with a 5 ERA in A-ball, that's pretty awful.

    Edit: But, hey, maybe the Wilpons got caught in another Ponzi scheme and they're broke again, who knows.
     
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  3. Timby

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    Hey, remember when the Cubs traded for a catcher so Contreras could get a break, and they wound up playing him every day anyway?

    Well, now he's out for three - four weeks, minimum, with a hamstring injury.

    It was fun while it lasted; enjoy the division, Bucs / Cards / Brewers.
     
  4. Emh

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    Well, Alex Avila is a good hitter, although I take it he's not the best defensively.
     
  5. Captain Clark Terrell

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    The Marlins have been sold. Good riddance, Loria. In the words of Dave Stewart, don't you ever bring your ass back in here!
     
  6. Captain Clark Terrell

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    Sean Manea.... ugh...
     
  7. Timby

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    CBS Sports is saying the new ownership group is planning to remove the Dinger Machine. What heresy is this?
     
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  8. Ar-Pharazon

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    Kyle Schwarber is closing in on an auspicious record.

     
  9. Emh

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    Such a prestigious record. :lol:
     
  10. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    They pinch hit for his 4th at bat yesterday, so he still has a shot.
     
  11. Jedi_Master

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    I am so tired of this season. Everyone's favorite farm team is really stinking it up, and the moment a decent player arrives, you wonder... hmm? How long before they are traded?
     
  12. Captain Clark Terrell

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    I'm already counting the days until Chapman is moved. I really wish they'd just move forward with their plans for the new stadium so that they can actually put together a decent roster and have some continuity.

    On a semi-related note, Mets fans are pissed at Cespedes. I'd have no problem with him coming back--albeit at a lower salary. The Mets excel at paying for nothing (see: Bonilla, Bobby), so maybe they'd be willing to pay most of his salary. He'd be an improvement over everyone in the current group. I still don't understand how/why Davis is playing the outfield every day with all of his problems throwing. It says something about the state of the A's that their clean-up hitter would be a platoon player just about everywhere else.
     
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  13. Scout101

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    Maybe it's because they've decided it's not horrific enough, and is going to be replaced with a larger, gaudier version? All hail the SuperDingerMachine!
     
  14. Jedi_Master

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    I understand what was motivating Beane when he traded away half the A's future for a single shot at the World Series. But I would love to have Cespedes back. I would love to have ANYONE back that would give the team some life and some identity.
     
  15. Timby

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    I imagine that part of the reason Beane has returned to his spendthrift ways is that Oakland is having its cut of revenue-sharing money gradually rolled back over a four-year period, beginning with this season.

    And anyway, the reason Cespedes kept getting traded was because of a unique clause in his contract when he defected: It stipulated that he could not be offered arbitration when his original deal was up, which meant there would be no compensation attached for signing him. So teams would acquire him, and then dump him when it looked like he wouldn't re-sign, so they wouldn't be left holding the bag.
     
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  17. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    The same can be said for probably half the umpires in MLB.

    Doesn't the NFL hold refs responsible for mistakes? MLB certainly should have a process by which they can remove umps from the "rotation" and make them do some retraining before getting back into games.

    Or just monitor their ball/strike calls and if they're making a lot of bad calls, make them watch replays of their entire game and show them what they're doing wrong.

    If they don't improve, off to the minor leagues with them. Or the unemplyment line.
     
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  18. Timby

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    Umpire discipline is indeed under the purview of the Commissioner's office; it became that way in 2000 after Richie Phillips convinced his rank and file to stage a mass resignation to protest MLB and the MLUA was dissolved, replaced by the World Umpires Association. MLB does grade each umpire's performance after every game, and postseason assignments are made based on the grades throughout the season.

    The WUA would have kittens if MLB began unilaterally relegating umpires to the minors or sacking them, though, especially because, unlike the NFL, all MLB officials are full-time employees protected by collective bargaining.
     
  19. Ar-Pharazon

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    Maybe more immediate "punishment" than post season implications would be more effective.

    Like I said, there would need to be a process or procedure in place, rather than anything unilateral. And yeah, it would have to be in the CBA whatever they would want to do.

    I think we've all seen way too many instances of umps deciding the outcomes of games with inconsistent calls, especially behind the plate. Sure, there's a lot of complaining by players, always has been, but I think Kinsler has a point.
     
  20. Timby

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    Well, the current head of the WUA is Joe West, and given how often he botches calls, I doubt you'll see him agreeing to any changes in umpire discipline (and I think they have another two full seasons before their current CBA expires).