Michelle Erica Green Trek reviews appreciation thread

[Alidar Jarok]

ex-astris-scientia is a very good site. But, yes, the black on white can sometimes seem a bit harsh on the eyes. Another site that has some reviews (I think they're a bit more brief, though) as well as a lot of ship information and stuff like that (like EAS) would be ditl.org. Personally, although I once valued their opinions a lot, I've long since decided it's easier just to watch an episode and form my own opinion, rather than rely on theirs.

 

[JNG]

One more interesting point to make... Reading back over this "appreciation" thread, I just noticed that the first four replies are negative, indicative of what I was saying. If one does not appreciate her reviews, why come in to drop shitbombs in an appreciation thread?

Mine was trying to express my point that they were successful in causing me to take another look at the reviewed material, but I also wanted to acknowledge the direction of the replies prior to mine. I don't think a thread where everyone looks only at the OP and responds directly to it without noting directions, trends or topics in replies from others is really a thread at all. Perhaps I should have made my dual directions clearer by dividing up the reply and using quotes.

 

[Sakrysta]

I remember reading a few of her reviews years ago, but I didn't read them regularly. I really don't remember why, it's been so long.

The reviewers I used to read regularly were Tim Lynch, Jammer, and Jim Wright's Delta Blues. Tim & Jammer both did a good job of objective assessment with humor. Jim Wright just never ceased to make me laugh with his Voyager episode re-tellings, and his reviews were almost always interesting.

 

[SFRabid]

Even my ex-girlfriend did not like her reviews. I think her words were "feminists stuck in the 70's". A throw back to when sexy and feminist were opposite. My girlfriend used to say, "True feminism means I can be as sexy as I want and still be in charge." She liked Bound very much. I had the feeling that Meg did not watch it to the end. Either that or she thinks that the only women wearing pants can be in charge.

 

[Dane_Whitman]

She's horrible, I'd much rather read Jammer's reviews.

 

[shatastrophic]

I have never heard of this woman before. There are actual analytical reviews of each episode? I've seen Wil Wheaton's but i was only interested because he was in the show. People know of this woman because she is some sort of Star Trek critic? There are already a shit ton of Star Trek critics, they're called the mainstream audience. Why would I need someone else like this chick to tell me what's wrong with it.

 

[KayArr]

Tim Lynch's are the best!

MEG goes a bit too feminist for me at times--and I'm a very liberated female!

But her reviews are generally thoughtful and interesting, even when I disagree with her.

Reading MEG and Jammer in tandem gives a well-rounded view, I've generally found. They agree most of the time, but when they disagree, I find it interesting.

 

[Broccoli]

Everything is sexist to MEG. Her TOS reviews were horrid because she was looking at a 1960s show from a 2000s perspective. Not a good thing.

Never heard of her before this thread, so I looked them up to see for myself. So far, out of the first four TOS episodes only one has mentioned sexism at all, and in direct contrast to your claim it contains the following disclaimer:

This is all much easier for me to dismiss on a 1966 television series than it is when it occurs in 1995 Enterprise episodes, so while I can't not-mention it, it doesn't particularly diminish the episode for me

EDIT: Just read her review of ENT "Bounty". First, it's no harsher than Bernd Schneider's review, and second, it doesn't mention slaves at all. Also, I didn't see any mention of the phrase "worst writer", but with your fucked up grammar I'm not sure what you meant anyway. You're not under the impression she wrote the episode, or some other bad Trek episode, are you? Because that's one possible way to parse your mangled sentence.

EDIT #2: Okay, maybe you meant "Bound" rather than "Bounty". She does call it the worst Trek episode ever, and cites sexism as the reason why. I haven't seen it, so I can't comment on the accuracy of her review, but again, Bernd Schneider criticises the same things in his review. Nor does she make a particular deal about the slave thing in and of itself. There's nothing in her review that a real life BDSM enthusiast would object to.


Marian

Yes, I meant "Bound." Sorry. And I was referring to her claim on Manny Coto (which, re-reading my post, I noticed I didn't put what I was referring to!). However, was it really necessary to say "fucked up grammar" when I just had one error? Honestly, was it? I mean, I'm not going to claim that you have fucked up spelling because you misspelled "criticizes."

In any event, I don't know who this Schneider person is nor have I read any of his reviews. Is "Bound" a good episode? No, not overly. Is there sexism in the episode? There can be a good argument for it, though given the events of the episode you can also make an argument against it too. However, the way MEG wrote that review (and the reason it stuck with me after all this time) is that it is so completely over the top and falls straight into the deep end. It is hard to take it seriously.

As for the TOS reviews, I haven't read them in years, so perhaps my memory of them isn't the greatest, but I recall them being modernly viewed. If I cared enough, I'd go back and re-read some to either correct my view or point out examples.

I have never heard of this woman before. There are actual analytical reviews of each episode? I've seen Wil Wheaton's but i was only interested because he was in the show. People know of this woman because she is some sort of Star Trek critic? There are already a shit ton of Star Trek critics, they're called the mainstream audience. Why would I need someone else like this chick to tell me what's wrong with it.

She's basically the in-house critic for TrekToday. She did ENT reviews and, since that show's cancellation, she's doing "retro-reviews" of TOS and TNG.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

In any event, I don't know who this Schneider person is nor have I read any of his reviews.

Bernd Schneider of ex-astris-scientia.org. His review of Bound is on this page.

 

[Rhody the Ram]

I may not always agree with Michelle Erica Green's reviews, but I do enjoy reading them. Her style is good (IMO) and, as others have said, she often reminds us of the best and worst moments of episodes.

 

[Broccoli]

In any event, I don't know who this Schneider person is nor have I read any of his reviews.

Bernd Schneider of ex-astris-scientia.org. His review of Bound is on this page.

Wow...his review is much more level-headed when discussing the short comings of the episode.

 

[The Boy Who Cried Worf]

I've only just started reading TrekNation and have only read some of MEG's reviews at random when an episode came to mind. More than a few of them came from a distinctly genderest point of view so I can't imagine most of the others would be very different.

Jammer's is the best from a writing stanpoint. Very detailed and he's given each episode a lot of thought. Cynic is fun at first, but the more you read him the more he doesn't seem to understand he is reviewing a television show that doesn't come together by magic.

 

[Starbreaker]

I quit reading them. I don't want to get into it, but I like my own opinions.