Message in a bottle New Holodoc required

[USSHermes]

In Message in a bottle, The EMH is transported off ship. Paris laments the fact he has to do medical duties and asks Kim to create a new Holodoc, which Kim implies would be incredibly difficult. ????????

Step one. Go to Holodeck.

Step two. "Computer, please create an illusion of Sickbay with EMH."

Step three: Transfer the holocharacter to the real sickbay systems.

Step four:, link the hologram to Medical Database.

QED I am smarter than Kim or Paris

 

[Brit]

LOL what a perfect illustration of the circular argument. It's the knowledge link that would be important and would the holographic hologram have it.

Brit

 

[USSHermes]

But the copy would at least be able interact, the version they create just recites medical textbooks.

 

[Brit]

Where does the copy come from because the actual program is probably in the Beta Quadrant trying to figure out how to get rid of 32 Romulans.

Brit

 

[DonIago]

Would you rather be treated by a non-interactive doctor with full academic knowledge of medicine, or an interactive doctor with noticeably limited knowledge of medicine?

Hm...I think I'll stick with WebMD.

 

[Odo's_Bucket]

It wasn't that difficult for them to create a holographic version of the Cardassian doctor in "Nothing Human", from nothing more than Starfleet records.

 

[Brit]

Whoops, my daughter just looked it up in the Voyager compainion, and there were 27 Romulans.

I got the first number from her too, I kind of trust her because she is the best Trek Trivia player I know of.

Brit

 

[JoeRalat]

I can save a lot more time, just use the backup. You remember Living Witness...the backup module.

 

[Kirby]

I'm not sure why they never made a back up of the doc anyway. It would have come in handy if they had a problem with the original, or if the needed more than one doctor at a time. Plus it would be great to hear him argue with himself.

 

[USSHermes]

Where does the copy come from??

It is generated by the computer. Remember the episode of TNG when the computer made duplicate crewmembers that fooled even Picard?

If the computer can make interactive software copies such as the one of Leah brahms it can certainly create a duplicate doc.

 

[Brit]

Where does the copy come from??

It is generated by the computer. Remember the episode of TNG when the computer made duplicate crewmembers that fooled even Picard?

If the computer can make interactive software copies such as the one of Leah brahms it can certainly create a duplicate doc.

But the computer had a pattern to copy from, and it turns out that the Leah Brahms copy was nothing like her real self. I repeat the doctor's program is in the Beta Quadrant, what is the computer going to copy.

Brit

 

[nx1701g]

I can save a lot more time, just use the backup. You remember Living Witness...the backup module.

We don't know when exactly that took place (ie when the module was stolen). It was possible it was already gone.

As for a backup EMH. I recall reading in behind the scenes interviews about the show that the EMH was meant to be a new generation hologram that had a specialized matrix that allowed it to perform surgery.

 

[USSHermes]

But the computer had a pattern to copy from, and it turns out that the Leah Brahms copy was nothing like her real self. I repeat the doctor's program is in the Beta Quadrant, what is the computer going to copy.

Do you even know how the holosystems work? They don't scan things in real time to create copies.

The computer has the visual appearances, mannerisms, voice and extensive files of people on board as well as stock characters and places. it doesn't need people to copy from. If you were on voyager and said please generate a copy of Admiral James T Kirk it would and you would be able to have an in depth discussion with him about battle tactics. Same with the doc. While he might not have ALL the specialised subroutines the real doc has he would certainly be able to perform basic medical functions such as identifying heartburn which was the type of thing Paris couldn't be bothered doing.

 

[Timo]

I don't see the problem here, really. Paris asked Kim to design a new holo-Doc "below the counter". Kim said he'd try, and Paris mistook that for an indication that Kim could do it. But Kim had no idea how to proceed, so he built something that totally didn't work. Which was only to be expected. The two thus wasted a day or so, after which the matter became moot anyway.

Now, if Paris had asked Torres, she would probably have pointed at the clearly labeled button that activated the backup EMH...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Candlelight]

Why did the Doc have to go anyway? Why not just send a hologram from the holodeck?

They could've sent that women from the Elizabethan story Janeway was playing in.

 

[Deks]

Because they were running out of time and the Prometheus was about to leave the range of the Hirogen station.
If they tried sending a regular hologram, they would have to re-program it/him/her to inform SF of Voyager's whereabouts, and as already mentioned, they were running out of time.


As for the new holo-doc that Harry made ...
Well, I guess it can be justified with the premise that Harry tried to do what Paris wanted him to do.
Had he actually went to the holodeck and tried to recreate everything, I think he'd have much more success instead of doing it manually.
Zimmerman, Harry is not.