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Marvels' Eternals Discussion - Spoiler Warning

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Since i couldn't find a dedicated thread here it is.

Today Eternals got their first full trailer ( apart from a teaser a while ago):

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With this movie Marvel completely left Earth and the initial grounded aspect of the MCU because Eternals is full on bonkers superaction at the highest level including Celestials.

It's like the Avengers a milliion years later on steroids and i love it! :lol: I am actively fighting against hype, especially with Marvel, but so far they haven't disappointed much and word around is that the movie could be one of their best. It certainly seems to have a giant scope - a group that could have stopped Thanos ( who is an Eternal!) easily yet chose not to because they have a very specific mission focus ( damn, even superpowered people can be bueraucrats!).

It's not too far off, let's see what this will be.
 
I didn't like The Eternals back in the day so had little in the way of anticipation for this - I thought there was a good chance this would be a turkey (just like I thought Guardians would be).

I have, however, made a point of reading some of the more recent stuff and liked it rather more, and thought the first trailer looked promising. I'll check this one out.
 
It's still a bit weird for me to see Kumail Nanjiani guy shooting beams.

As to the trailer, I don't know, The Eternals is leaving me a bit cold. I may very well enjoy it once I see it but I'm not feeling a draw at the moment.
 
Relayer1 said:
I didn't like The Eternals back in the day so had little in the way of anticipation for this - I thought there was a good chance this would be a turkey (just like I thought Guardians would be).
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I had the same feelings about Guardians of the Galaxy, especially since I knew very little about them beyond the Marvel trading cards in the early 90s. But I went ahead and watched it on the big screen...and was completely blown away.

This time around, I've actually gotten a little familiarized with the Eternals having read Neil Gaiman's run, so now I have a better idea what to expect. Plus, the cast is much more familiar to me (I think I only knew Zoe Saldana and Vin Diesel), so I'm much more pumped than I was with Guardians.
 
A lot of the comics the MCU is drawing from at the moment never really made it big in the Netherlands when I was kid, maybe now they are, I wouldn't know.

So things like The Eternals mean nothing to me. The trailer looks very interesting and has definitely made me curious. But with the onslaught of movies (hopefully) being released in the next couple of months, I might have say no to a few. I might just wait for this to hit Disney+ in favor of Dune.
 
The Nth Doctor said:
I had the same feelings about Guardians of the Galaxy, especially since I knew very little about them beyond the Marvel trading cards in the early 90s. But I went ahead and watched it on the big screen...and was completely blown away.
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Me too.

I've watched the new Eternals trailer now. Looks epic, and I'm not even minding Angelina Jolie being in it...
 
The trailer was decent. Honestly, I'm just glad that it looks like they're not taking inspiration from Neil Gaiman's Eternals, since that is (in my opinion) one of the few genuinely bad pieces of work that Gaiman has written. Sure, that means they can't use the stupid forced amnesia plot to explain why the Eternals never help anyone and instead just have to say it was "Celestials orders", but to me its still better then the Gaiman stuff.

I am a little annoyed that they've seemed to change a lot about the Eternals. The Eternals didn't "come to Earth 7,000 years ago" or whatever the trailer says, they are from Earth, and the Celestials transformed them from what they were into Eternals at sometime between 1,000,000 to 10,000 years ago (depending on the comic run). Also, several of them did effect history, with Sersi specifically being the "Circe" from the Greek myth and Ikaris being the father of the Icarus who tried to fly too close to the sun. It feels like a lot of the cool backstory stuff is being turned fairly generic.

Overall I'm sure the movie will be fine, but the Shang-Chi trailer definitely made me more interested in that movie. That is a switch for me, because with the comics I like The Eternals fairly well and consider Shang-Chi to be extremely boring.
 
I can't buy the premise of The Eternals. They're our protectors but can only protect us against one specific threat?

But countless wars, racism, subjugation, slavery, Nazis, the Snap, and all the other horrible things... that's okay to let happen.

And yet they fell in love with us and still love us... but can only give a fuck when the one specific threat happens. Okay.
 
Ryan Thomas Riddle said:
I can't buy the premise of The Eternals. They're our protectors but can only protect us against one specific threat?

But countless wars, racism, subjugation, slavery, Nazis, the Snap, and all the other horrible things... that's okay to let happen.

And yet they fell in love with us and still love us... but can only give a fuck when the one specific threat happens. Okay.
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Yep, better for them to just skip over the "why no Thanos" bit and move on...
 
Still meh on it, but given Disney's track record, I'll give it a shot, most of them were good, some were kinda meh ( both Ant-man, Black widow, Guardians 2)
 
Wow, I'm a little surprised by the subded reaction, that trailer blew me away. I haven't run into the characters in the comics, but with the cast, the director, and the quality of the trailers I'm really getting excited for this one.
 
I read Kirby's comic when it was first published and at the time, I believed it was a tired re-tread of concepts he perfected in the New Gods at DC. Over the decades, others have tried to make their own mark on the concept (and tie it to the larger Marvel comic universe), but it was never a "must read" title, just as this film's trailer (and other clips i've seen) is not that attractive.
 
Commander Troi said:
I know next to nothing about these characters (much like GotG). But it looks cool.


Wait, is that right?
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Thanos is a Titan. In the comics, the Titans are an offshoot/colony of the Eternals who went to live on one of Saturn's moons (Titan).

In the MCU, Thanos is from a planet called Titan that clearly isn't one of Saturn's moons, so the Eternals and the Titans may not have anything to do with each other in the movies. But that's hardly definitive. Titan could still have easily been an offshoot/other branch of the Eternals if that's what the writers say it was.
 
Commander Troi said:
Wait, is that right?
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It's a retcon that combines two different properties Jack Kirby's Eternals and Jim Starlin's Titans. Kirby's characters pretty much existed in their own universe, with little references to the greater Marvel Universe. A robot based on the Hulk was about as close as it got. Starlin's Titans were well ensconced in the MU, interacting with several Marvel characters, especially Captain Marvel. (Mar-Vell) Interestingly enough, Starlin's Titans were a riff on Kirby's DC creation, the New Gods. After Kirby left Marvel, Roy Thomas integrated the Eternals in the MU in his Thor run. Later someone (Mark Gruenwald?) noticed a similarity between the Titans and the Eternals and decided the Titans were a group of Eternals who split from the main group and left Earth.
 
Wait, so what were the Titans' origins before the retcon? Were they just supposed to be a random human-looking alien race that evolved on one of Saturn's moons?
 
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