Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

Hmm, this really has to make you wonder what exactly happened? Possibly a combination of all of the above?

 

It seems more that the issue is Disney wants you to believe she was fired for breach of contract and Alonso herself wants you to believe she was fired for the Don't Say Gay speech.

Whether we'll get any clear evidence as to which one we ought to believe or not remains to be seen.

 

The one rumour I heard is that police have already called off the search for anyone at ground level under her chain of command who are sorry to see her go.

 

Daredevil was shooting in Times Square and it does look like they're doing the Mayor Fisk story.


For some reason a lot of people had "PymVanDyne Foundation" branded items as well.

 

Jonathan Majors has been arrested in New York City for assaulting a woman. He denies everything. Yikes. Can you imagine having to shift gears and recast your main villain this late in the game?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tm...n-majors-arrested-assault-woman-nyc-new-york/

 

They could give it to Terrence Howard to make up for dumping him. Oh, wait...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrence_Howard#Abuse_and_harassment

 

Well, it looks like his career might be coming to a quick end.

 

"It wasn't me! It was another Jonathan Majors from another universe!"

 

Wow, I'm seeing all sorts of reporting in Twitter right now that a lot of people around him knew how he was.

Damn, this is pretty damn bad. I was about to wonder how Marvel didn't see this going in but I know that's how the Hollywood culture is. Keep it quiet and not talk about it until it's dragged out into the open, then act all heroic by cutting ties as if they just learned.

 

Be interesting to see if this is an Ezra Miller situation where he "apologizes" and "works on himself" and stays with the franchise or they just drop him and recast. Or they go a third way, say it's all fake and he'll be vindicated, and fight it tooth and nail hoping he'll get off Roiland-style and spin it as a web of lies, regardlesa of the truth

 

Here's an idea: how about we give slightly more of a shit that a person was assaulted than how this will affect the funny people in weird costumes movies? Just a thought.

 

I would suggest refraining from any judgments until more comes out on this. He's currently no longer in police custody according to CNN. He is innocent until proven guilty. If more information comes out about this that Majors is likely guilty of all he has been accused of then I agree that we should support the victim. But until then, there is just a whole lot of nuance there that we don't know about.

According to a poster above there does appear to be some inside information that this kind of behavior is not a surprise to people who know Majors. That's a big deal--but still nothing formal until people come forward publicly.

 

That's a standard for courts not discussion and never has been.

 

Thank you! Refreshing to hear someone say that instead of hungrily joining the feeding frenzy.

Yes, it is a standard for everyday decency. It's called giving people the benefit of the doubt. If you assume the best of someone and they turn out worse, they're the one at fault. But if you assume the worst and it isn't warranted, then you're the one who's in the wrong. That's why it's important not to rush to judgment, in every situation. Real morality is about governing our own behavior first.

 

I'm not sure I'd say Roiland got off given he was fired from (I think) every show he was working on.

 

Completely agree but a few years ago #believeallwoman would have had this guy fired soon, if not already (see, e.g., Depp, Johnny).

 

He got off legally and now it's claiming to have been fully exonerated and the charges false was my meaning.

 

here's an idea, how about we stop expecting actors to be morally pure paragons of virtue

 

That's a strawman. No one is saying that. There is a significant difference between "expecting actors to be morally pure paragons of virtue" and not supporting people credibly accused of physical, sexual, or verbal assault.

How credible this current situation is I don't know, I haven't read that much about it, but since your statement is made in general so is my reply.

 

I mean you're in the MCU topic... When Chadwick Boseman died there was plenty of outpouring and sympathy, but there was also questions about "Wonder what happens to Black Panther?"

I'd also say you can't definitively say someone was 'assaulted' yet. So really the only thing you can prove/speculate about factually is 'fall-out' from the accusations/arrest.

Time will tell how the narrative develops. Someone being physically injured still doesn't automatically mean the person who did it was guilty of assault. There are instances of defending yourself and causing wounds to someone else, or even injuring someone else who was attempting self-harm to themselves.

Sadly it's also possible the 'truth' is actually never known or proven because there are many instances of people (mainly women) who suffered physical abuse and are convinced to 'drop the charges' either by financial settlements, or worry about public trials, or just going back to their 'abuser' in terms of relationships.