LOST vs Voyager

[RobertScorpio]

Okay..lets see how this pans out...

First up?

LOST vs STAR TREK VOYAGER; which, overall, was the better tv show? And no, there will be no 'middle ground' answer. You will have to make a "gut" call.

Rob

 

[Brent]

I'm not seeing how they can really be compared or are similar?

 

[RobertScorpio]

They are both TV shows. Its no different than making a top ten list of favorite movies..and getting ten movies that don't have any similarity either...

Rob

 

[The Evil Dead]

I'm much more curious where people stand on the question of Lost vs. All in the Family.

 

[RobertScorpio]

That is actually a good question...and I'd probably go with ALL IN THE FAMILY. But start a poll..

Rob

 

[The Master of Tarquin Hill]

Why is this thread still open?

 

[RobertScorpio]

Four people seem to understand the question just fine. And, the beauty is, you don't have to vote.

Rob

 

[startrekwatcher]

LOST easily. It might have come off the rails at the end but it did have a great first season and 3-5. VOY never had one good consistent season in its run. And while I wasn't attached to the LOST characters for the most part I cared more for them than the VOY characters.

 

[propita]

Though I love Voyager, I cringe at the lost potential of the show (no pun intended) due to the writers, directors, producers, studio, whomever. Jeez, fanfic has shown that good plot and characterization could've been done, had it been desired.

As for Lost, it captured the imagination of so many more people. Even if the plot went haywire or whatever, the characters were developed to a greater extent. While plot is great, big epic stories are at their most interesting when there is a character whom the audience cares about (positively or negatively) enough to say, "What will this mean/do to 'character'?" I don't think a classic epic can be named that didn't have some character to root for or against in it. Action alone doesn't cut it.

 

[WeAreTheBorg]

Not even a question. If lost is an A+, voyager is a C-

 

[RobertScorpio]

Though I love Voyager, I cringe at the lost potential of the show (no pun intended) due to the writers, directors, producers, studio, whomever. Jeez, fanfic has shown that good plot and characterization could've been done, had it been desired.

As for Lost, it captured the imagination of so many more people. Even if the plot went haywire or whatever, the characters were developed to a greater extent. While plot is great, big epic stories are at their most interesting when there is a character whom the audience cares about (positively or negatively) enough to say, "What will this mean/do to 'character'?" I don't think a classic epic can be named that didn't have some character to root for or against in it. Action alone doesn't cut it.

propita, love the screen name, and your post. I have read a ton of Voyager fanfic, and I am amazed at how good it is over the televised product. I myself shy away from creating Voyager fanfic, though I have used 'characters' from time to time. But the stories I have read that center around Voyager have all been really good.

Rob

 

[Hober Mallow]

Okay..lets see how this pans out...

First up?

LOST vs STAR TREK VOYAGER; which, overall, was the better tv show?

LMFAO!!!!

Let's put it this way.

If Lost were like Voyager...

*Most episodes would be stand-alones that don't matter to the overall series.

*A few "special" episodes would be about where it looks like they're finally going to get off the island, but then at the last second... damn, they didn't quite make it! Maybe next time.

*In every episode, characters would be beaten, have their clothes dirtied and torn, bleed all over themselves, onyl to be perfectly fine by the next episode, with their clothes somehow restored and looking frrshly laundered.

*In the final episode, they get off the island! We're saved! The end.

 

[DevilEyes]

Okay..lets see how this pans out...

First up?

LOST vs STAR TREK VOYAGER; which, overall, was the better tv show?

LMFAO!!!!

Let's put it this way.

If Lost were like Voyager...

*Most episodes would be stand-alones that don't matter to the overall series.

*A few "special" episodes would be about where it looks like they're finally going to get off the island, but then at the last second... damn, they didn't quite make it! Maybe next time.

*In every episode, characters would be beaten, have their clothes dirtied and torn, bleed all over themselves, onyl to be perfectly fine by the next episode, with their clothes somehow restored and looking frrshly laundered.

*In the final episode, they get off the island! We're saved! The end.

*In the final episode, despite hardly ever having shared scenes together during the entire run of the show, Kate and Desmond would fall in love and hook up.

 

[Gryffindorian]

LOST vs STAR TREK VOYAGER; which, overall, was the better tv show?

Rob

Blasphemy.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Good lord, this isn't even a contest.

I have read a ton of Voyager fanfic, and I am amazed at how good it is over the televised product.

I agree. The VOY fans are better writers than the VOY writers ever were. Ironically, VOY fanfic is some of the best of any series.

 

[Aragorn]

Voyager was the only Star Trek series I gave up on part way through because it was just so awful and repetitive. In many ways it hits the same beats as Smallville, only with a last-second technobabble solution instead of a single punch, and no hip current soundtrack.

 

[RobertScorpio]

^^ I totally agree. The thing about voyager, IMO? It had some really great great episodes, but just not as many as TNG. I think Star Trek's formula (spaceship space opera) was showing its age. It (being Star Trek) just went to the well one too many times, and the well was dried up. They were retelling the same stories TNG or TOS had already told, just with a "voyager" (and later Enterprise) mold. The inspiration was lost....

Rob

 

[Warp Coil]

Lost and VOY are about as polar opposite as you can get. VOY, despite an interesting premise and decent cast, never reached its potential. It never tried to be anything great or special. It wasn't must-see, appointment TV. It didn't inspire water cooler gossip and wild speculation amongst the fans. It didn't blow minds with fascinating stories, complex characters, building mysteries, shocking plot twists or jaw-dropping cliffhangers. VOY was simple, dumbed-down, "safe" entertainment. It didn't challenge the audience, and it didn't reward the audience either.

Lost may not have been perfect, but it was pretty damned close.

 

[RobertScorpio]

Agreed, warp coil. I will admit that season three of lost had me scratching my head. Also, what was the point of Echo and all the Tailees???

No show, not BAB-5, not Firefly, not TOS or TNG or DS9 can ever claim to be perfect. In fact, if any of you know of a show that ran for 6+ seasons that was perfect (other than South Park, if it is six years old) go ahead and tell us.

I felt good after Lost was over...Voyager's finale left me angry that so much of a great premise had been wasted on a, IMO, totally mundane series ender.


Rob

 

[Stone_Cold_Sisko]

Agreed, warp coil. I will admit that season three of lost had me scratching my head. Also, what was the point of Echo and all the Tailees???

No show, not BAB-5, not Firefly, not TOS or TNG or DS9 can ever claim to be perfect. In fact, if any of you know of a show that ran for 6+ seasons that was perfect (other than South Park, if it is six years old) go ahead and tell us.

I felt good after Lost was over...Voyager's finale left me angry that so much of a great premise had been wasted on a, IMO, totally mundane series ender.


Rob

admit it, you put the 6+ seasons qualifier so the rest of us nerds wouldn't descend with an avalanche of responses about The Wire, didnt' you?

(i'm being half-facetious)