Looking for Source for Memory Beta

[Cicero]

Some four years ago, when the Tezwa dilogy was released, David Mack indicated that the USS Republic seen in A Time To Heal was intended to be a Sovereign class vessel, which the ship page and class page currently reflect on Memory Beta. Unfortunately, the thread appears to have been pruned. Does anyone know if the thread might have been backed up somewhere, or if the information might have been copied somewhere else? (Or, David, could you provide another attribution?)

 

[William Leisner]

There's a history of changes to the wiki page, isn't there?

 

[Therin of Andor]

There's a history of changes to the wiki page, isn't there?

Yes, but I think he means the footnoted reference to the factoid was a dead link, and has been pruned. And unsupported factoids can be removed from MB.

 

[Cicero]

^ Yes. (Though I think the thread here was pruned before the article came into being.) I'm looking for either a copy of the long-ago-pruned thread, a copy of the authorial comment, or a new comment, to support the ship being listed as Sovereign class.

 

[William Leisner]

Oops. Sorry, carry on.

 

[David Mack]

I can't remember, honestly. I checked my original manuscripts and found no text to support it. Though if it had been up to me, yes, the Republic in service in 2379 would have been a Sovereign-class starship, and the Musashi would have been a Nebula-class ship.

 

[Cicero]

Thanks, David.

 

[Turbo]

Gotta love the ability to create sources for MB here.

 

[JoeZhang]

Gotta love the ability to create sources for MB here.

Hum...

to the authors...


Picard likes to wear women's underwear and it's a constant subtext in all of your books - right ?

 

[Turbo]

Elizabeth Shelby is secretly a Changeling who will take over the Alpha Quadrant after it is devastated by the Typhon Pact, right?

 

[William Leisner]

Gotta love the ability to create sources for MB here.

Hum...

to the authors...


Picard likes to wear women's underwear and it's a constant subtext in all of your books - right ?

It would be terribly unfortunate if someone were to quote this post, and misattribute JoeZhang's comment to me. Yes, terribly unfortunate.

 

[MichaelS]

Little does Picard know that Shelby's cunning plan for Quadrant domination involves masquerading as items of womens' clothing ...

 

[DimesDan]

Gotta love the ability to create sources for MB here.

Hum...

to the authors...


Picard likes to wear women's underwear and it's a constant subtext in all of your books - right ?

Okay, I'm having flash backs of the episode of Extras that Patrick Stewart featured in.

 

[Avro Arrow]

^ Yes. (Though I think the thread here was pruned before the article came into being.) I'm looking for either a copy of the long-ago-pruned thread, a copy of the authorial comment, or a new comment, to support the ship being listed as Sovereign class.

Do you still need this, now that David Mack has provided a new comment? This'll probably sound geeky (even for this place !), but back in the pre-Memory Alpha/Beta days, I used to save off interesting factoids I read here in .txt files for later reference. I checked, and I do have a .txt copy of the original comment. However, there are two problems with this:

1. It is just a text file containing the body of the post... didn't include the poster's name or date or anything, so there's really nothing to prove it was the original comment, and it is therefore likely meaningless as an encyclopedic reference.

2. Not sure if it's considered crass to repost something someone else said long ago, so I guess I'd want to hear it was OK with Mr. Mack before going ahead and posting it.

However, if you still want to see it, and David Mack doesn't mind, I'd be happy to repost the original comment for you.

 

[David Mack]

^ Be my guest.

 

[Avro Arrow]

^ OK, thank you, sir.

The file was timestamped Sept 14, 2004, which is of course when I saved it, not necessarily when it was posted. Here's what was in the file (the attribution I obviously typed in myself for my own reference):

Posted by David Mack (Author - A Time to Heal) on TrekBBS:

Okay, I know some people love this technobabble about starship classes. Bottom line: It wasn't important. In case you're wondering, I did decide what those starships were before I wrote the story, but when I was writing the book there was no artful way to insert the information without it coming off as an unmotivated technobabble dump. But since it seems to have impaired your reading experience, I'll fill you in: the Republic is Sovereign-class; the Amargosa is Nebula-class; and the Musashi is Akira-class.

The post itself wasn't directed at me, but I saved it because I'm one of those weird people who love technobabble about starship classes!

 

[David Mack]

^ Yup, that reads like me on a rant circa 2004.

 

[PaulSimpson]

^ Yup, that reads like me on a rant circa 2004.

What was so specific about 2004? It seems year-proof!

 

[Cicero]

^ OK, thank you, sir.

The file was timestamped Sept 14, 2004, which is of course when I saved it, not necessarily when it was posted. Here's what was in the file (the attribution I obviously typed in myself for my own reference):

Posted by David Mack (Author - A Time to Heal) on TrekBBS:

Okay, I know some people love this technobabble about starship classes. Bottom line: It wasn't important. In case you're wondering, I did decide what those starships were before I wrote the story, but when I was writing the book there was no artful way to insert the information without it coming off as an unmotivated technobabble dump. But since it seems to have impaired your reading experience, I'll fill you in: the Republic is Sovereign-class; the Amargosa is Nebula-class; and the Musashi is Akira-class.

The post itself wasn't directed at me, but I saved it because I'm one of those weird people who love technobabble about starship classes!

Thank you!