Life on Mars U.S. version

[Worf2DS9]

The girl is better though...

Heresy!!!

There's nothing whatsoever wrong with Liz White as the lovely WPC Annie Cartwright that some other broad can improve upon her.

Here-here! I absolutely adored Liz White in the UK version. Having said that, has there been a reason why they dumped Rachel Lefebvre? Looking at the two photos above, she looks way more appealing than Mol.

 

[Sheep]

Is there a second pilot out? The leaked ABC one I saw was absolutely lifeless and boring compared to the original British one.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I wasn't going to bother with this - cop shows from the 70s just don't resonate with me - but the casting (Michael Imperioli, Harvey Keitel, Gretchen Mol) has got me curious. Those are respectable actors who wouldn't just sign onto schlock.

Regardless of whether I stick with it, and my hunch is I won't, I think it could be a moderate ratings success. I think cop shows from the 70s do resonate with a large enough audience (guys mainly) and the sf/f aspect can be soft-pedaled so it adds some new element without scaring anyone off who's mainly interested in the cop-show & nostalgia angles. I'd give it better odds of survival than most of the new stuff this fall.

GREAT! Another cop show pretending to be Sci Fi.

I know whatcha mean. If it's any consolation, I'm sure most will crash & burn and hopefully this fad will be over and we'll get REAL sf/f again someday.

Is it true that the US version will have a different end - that the producers thought the end of the originak UK version was crass?

They're going to at least have to leave it open to question. A story where you know the ending, urgh - I guess it could work but usually it just kills people's interest. I know it would kill my interest dead.

And the it-was-all-a-dream ending is a real killer to try to pull off. My personal opinion is that unless you're The Wizard of Oz, avoid that ending like the plague. It's a cop-out (not crass so much as just an aggravating cheat) and makes people feel cheated for watching something that was fake all along.

 

[Darth_Daver]

The girl is better though...

Heresy!!!

There's nothing whatsoever wrong with Liz White as the lovely WPC Annie Cartwright that some other broad can improve upon her.

Okay, after 6 more episodes... I can say I certainly warmed to her.

But how could the US people cast that flatfaced nobody to replace JOHN SIMM ????

 

[Sheep]

But how could the US people cast that flatfaced nobody to replace JOHN SIMM ????

I'm not sure there are many people who can replace John Simm in that role period. It'd be like trying to replace Kiefer Sutherland in 24--you can't possibly hope to do so, and you can only hope the replacement doesn't totally screw it up.

 

[Jim Steele]

And the it-was-all-a-dream ending is a real killer to try to pull off. My personal opinion is that unless you're The Wizard of Oz, avoid that ending like the plague. It's a cop-out (not crass so much as just an aggravating cheat) and makes people feel cheated for watching something that was fake all along.

Have you actually seen the original? It's not quite "it was all a dream".

 

[Bob The Skutter]

And the it-was-all-a-dream ending is a real killer to try to pull off. My personal opinion is that unless you're The Wizard of Oz, avoid that ending like the plague. It's a cop-out (not crass so much as just an aggravating cheat) and makes people feel cheated for watching something that was fake all along.

Have you actually seen the original? It's not quite "it was all a dream".

I don't think she cares. It's been mentioned before, but she keeps saying that.

 

[ClayinCA]

And the it-was-all-a-dream ending is a real killer to try to pull off. My personal opinion is that unless you're The Wizard of Oz, avoid that ending like the plague. It's a cop-out (not crass so much as just an aggravating cheat) and makes people feel cheated for watching something that was fake all along.

Have you actually seen the original? It's not quite "it was all a dream".

I don't think she cares. It's been mentioned before, but she keeps saying that.

Yeah, that's a little annoying - but I think she's right on the money with this:

I wasn't going to bother with this - cop shows from the 70s just don't resonate with me - but the casting (Michael Imperioli, Harvey Keitel, Gretchen Mol) has got me curious. Those are respectable actors who wouldn't just sign onto schlock.

I just hope the producers have a better handle on the show than it looked from the pilot -- although, the original pilot was produced by David E. Kelley, who's since left, correct?

 

[Temis the Vorta]

And the it-was-all-a-dream ending is a real killer to try to pull off. My personal opinion is that unless you're The Wizard of Oz, avoid that ending like the plague. It's a cop-out (not crass so much as just an aggravating cheat) and makes people feel cheated for watching something that was fake all along.

Have you actually seen the original? It's not quite "it was all a dream".

I don't think she cares. It's been mentioned before, but she keeps saying that.

You're right, I don't care.

Even close to being "it's all a dream" is bad enough to destroy any interest I might have had in seeing the original, which was minimal at best, due to my lack of interest in 1) cop shows and 2) the 70s.

although, the original pilot was produced by David E. Kelley, who's since left, correct?

Yep. Usually a bad sign, but who knows.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Have you actually seen the original? It's not quite "it was all a dream".

I don't think she cares. It's been mentioned before, but she keeps saying that.

You're right, I don't care.

Even close to being "it's all a dream" is bad enough to destroy any interest I might have had in seeing the original, which was minimal at best, due to my lack of interest in 1) cop shows and 2) the 70s.

although, the original pilot was produced by David E. Kelley, who's since left, correct?

Yep. Usually a bad sign, but who knows.

I actually think you're right not to care. The original was good for reasons that I don't think will really translate. I think it would be hard to capture again.

I also think it's a bad sign, but considering the unaired pilot was quite shoddy, it may be that they can make it better with the move. But I couldn't count on it.

 

[Aragorn]

I just hope the producers have a better handle on the show than it looked from the pilot -- although, the original pilot was produced by David E. Kelley, who's since left, correct?

Without DEK, that might mean the characters actually stick around for a while and aren't continuously replaced on a whim.

 

[firehawk12]

That's the ultimate frustration with Kelley isn't it? He doesn't even bother to respect his own continuity.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Have you actually seen the original? It's not quite "it was all a dream".

I don't think she cares. It's been mentioned before, but she keeps saying that.

Yeah, that's a little annoying - but I think she's right on the money with this:

I wasn't going to bother with this - cop shows from the 70s just don't resonate with me - but the casting (Michael Imperioli, Harvey Keitel, Gretchen Mol) has got me curious. Those are respectable actors who wouldn't just sign onto schlock.

I just hope the producers have a better handle on the show than it looked from the pilot -- although, the original pilot was produced by David E. Kelley, who's since left, correct?

Yes and they replaced him with the producers of the vomit inducing October Road.

 

[ClayinCA]

^^ Ah. Well then, so much for that. I'll probably still watch the first few episodes, to see what they did with/to it, but with a track record like that, I'm not hopeful.