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Latest Harry Potter, Deathly Hallows Trailer

I hear it's supposed to be much bigger and more epic. Like, they destroy Hogwarts in the process. I hear Alexandre Desplat is doing the music. He's a great composer, but I was hoping for John Williams or Nicholas Hooper to come back.
 
I'm sure the duel will be visually interesting, though I'll be interested to see how its depicted, since it would be hard to make it fit with the parametres established for the Elder Wand (namely, that it won't actually harm Harry). Maybe he has to struggle for mastery or something?

The trailer looks great, though I find it a bit amusing how much of Part 2 they're putting in there (though, of course, it's not like most people will be unaware of how things play out, so maybe there isn't much point in trying to conceal it).
 
I thought it looked awesome. I was very impressed with how they have brought some of the book's big scenes to life. Visually stunning in terms of scope and detail.

While nobody tops John Williams IMHO, the score on this trailer is pretty damn good.

You might notice a minor change. On the Deathly Hallows trailer shown on the DVD, Hermione's hands are covered in blood in one scene. This scene is shown in the trailer but the blood has been airbrushed out. I believe this has to do with that silly rule prohibiting certain kinds of violence in movie trailers. Remember how in the most recent Indiana Jones trailer, they digitally altered a scene where Russians are pointing their weapons at Indy? I think the same thing happened here.

About the duel...

The changes are pretty obvious. One, Harry and Voldemore are not surrounded by the Hogwarts fighters. I'm not happy with that but as long as everyone rushes Harry at the end, I can live with it. Two, they've expanded the fight. This isn't really a surprise...I kind of expected the movie to do this. But they are going to have to do some explaining because the Elder Wand shouldn't allow that to happen. We'll wait and see how that turns out.

What's great about the duel in the book is that while Harry doesn't give Voldemort a literal ass-kicking, it's still satisfying because he completely tears down Voldemort before he finishes him off. What Harry tells him sends Voldemort's world crashing down. That was satisfying I thought.

That being said, the scene looks epic in the trailer. The abandoned school court is impressive and you can see dead bodies around them.
 
I was just wondering, today in fact (and this seems like as good a place as any to ask) if they plan on releasing a full-length version of the film. Perhaps as SE DVD or such?
 
Meh, pass:

The Christian Science Monitor said:
Successful storytelling rests on a few basic principles. One of them is this: A story is about someone who changes, who grows through a moral struggle. What is Harry's struggle? Exactly.

A story is about someone who changes. And, puberty aside, Harry doesn't change much. As envisioned by Rowling, he walks the path of good so unwaveringly that his final victory over Voldemort feels, not just inevitable, but hollow.

So, to recap: it's a four-hour movie in which the protagonist feels no inner conflict, has already won the affections of the modest, sorta-cute female version of his best friend, spouts cliches at the villain (who has absolutely no sense of humor), and finally defeats him... pretty much entirely because that villain chose to hold the wrong stick. No one's having a good time at all, no one seems to have even heard of the concept of sex, heck, no one's even acting anything like being drunk, as Harry did in the best bits of film (but not, tellingly, book) 6. Meanwhile, the screen time of the likes of Gambon, Rickman, Thewlis and Gleeson are at a series low, with Branagh and Oldman out of the picture entirely. And if you manage to stay conscious until the epilogue, well... you might wish you hadn't. Meanwhile, there are no new locations, creatures or characters to speak of, just the ones you've already spent twelve hours watching, most of which have barely evolved themselves. There should be lots of rain, though; cinematic-rainiacs will surely be satisfied.

Sounds like a great two nights at the movies! :p

I find it a bit amusing how much of Part 2 they're putting in there
Part one's gonna flat-out blow. Heard it here first. ;)
 
All you seem to do about HP is whine and moan, Gaith. Why do you even bother?

So basically the CSM article is complaining that Harry didn't start out as a morally ambigious jackass like most of today's movie, television and book characters.
 
Heh, in the brief bit of the trio in Gringotts with the elf, you can see Helena Bonham Carter-as-Emma Watson-as-Hermione. That should be hilarious.
 
All you seem to do about HP is whine and moan, Gaith. Why do you even bother?
'Cause it's fun? :p I actually rather liked the first four books, and am quite fond of the third and fourth movies; I think they're terrific entertainment. I dump on books/films 5-7 so much because they took a very promising story and drowned it in tedium and banality. If I'd never cared, I wouldn't keep pointing out how badly Rowling failed her fans.

So basically the CSM article is complaining that Harry didn't start out as a morally ambigious jackass like most of today's movie, television and book characters.
Not necessarily, but a few rough edges around his character wouldn't have hurt (and no, losing his temper a few times doesn't count, considering what he's gone through).

Unlike Luke Skywalker or Lyra Belacqua, though, Harry is never given the choice to get/stay out of harm's way and enjoy a materially pleasant, luxurious life. Okay, so Rowling wanted to get him started early; I accept that. But at no point does he have to make any kind of hard choice. He just bounces from necessity to necessity, winning his battles through luck and plot contrivance. It worked for the first few books, but by the time the Elder Wand became involved, the luster long gone. All the media hype of "darkness" and "adult themes" to the contrary, the series finishes exactly as black-and-white as it begins; its lack of evolution or depth is striking.
 
I read the books and am sure that the 7th book could've easily been done as one movie. Not even a 2 hour 45 minute one like the others at that.
 
This looks great. I'm looking forward to the last two movies a lot more than I did some of the others, because with this book I think there's a lot of scope for them to fix things, as opposed to just being less-satisfying versions of scenes I loved from the books, which was my main reaction to some of the earlier films.

I'm really looking forward to seeing how they do the duel. Maybe I'm a mitherer too, but I thought the final showdown in the books was dramatically ridiculous. I mean, Harry wins by dint of a new wand rule which has never been mentioned at any point before in either the book or the series. I love HP, but with the last two books, there's a definite element of loving to hate it too.

Gaith, have you read Dan Hemmens' review of Deathly Hallows? I love it.
 
I think the final duel works because there's no way in hell that Harry could ever, ever, EVER beat Voldy in a fair fight. The only way he could plausibly win is through some arcane loophole that Voldy didn't know about. Just like the first time he was defeated!
 
Wow. That trailer is the most exciting thing I have ever seen.

And, oh, Gaith, about Harry not facing any really tough choices, but instead being forced to suffer through hardships, and then escaping them mainly through luck and plot contrivance....yep, you're absolutely right. And it's awesome. You know who else that happens to? Moses. Still a great story. Fate and necessity are themes as old as world literature. It's only modern sensibilities that insist on inner turmoil and tough choices. Achilles never had a moment of self-doubt in his life.
 
I noticed what is probably another change from the book:

There's a shot where Nagini is attacking Harry...it jumped out to me because it seemed like an awfully "bright" room. Pausing the trailer, I noticed that it is obviously in a baby's room based on the glimpses of decor. I'm guessing that they are cutting the whole Bathilda Bagshot angle and having Harry and Hermione actually go into his parent's house, where Nagini attacks Harry in his own room instead...
 
You might notice a minor change. On the Deathly Hallows trailer shown on the DVD, Hermione's hands are covered in blood in one scene. [/SPOILER]

OK, so I wasn't just imagining things. I hope they don't wimp out and change it in the final film, too. Frankly, this film better be PG-13 otherwise it'll be watered down.

I'm not too worried about changes that might be made for the screen. Most books cannot be satisfactorily adapted scene for scene in a movie, especially not something like this. As long as it stays faithful to the movies that came before and the spirit of Rowling's books (and remember she has to sign off on any changes made for the screen, anyway), I'll be fine.

My biggest worry is not being able to see this film properly. I live in one of those areas where if a 3-D film arrives it's usually only shown in 3-D, with no 2-D option offered. I don't want to see this in 3-D, full stop. I want to concentrate on the story and the characters, not a gimmick.

<Orson Welles Frozen Peas>"Show me one example of 3-D serving the Harry Potter story and I'll go d*** on you."</Orson Welles Frozen Peas>

Alex
 
Gaith, have you read Dan Hemmens' review of Deathly Hallows? I love it.
Egads... it's quite long... seems pretty spot-on, though. Loved this part:

JK Rowling: Look, I get it. You've got a bunch of Dumbledore backplot you want to give us. You've told us that. Just give us the plot dump, or don't give us the plot dump. I don't care at this stage. Nothing's going to be as cool as "he was Ron from the future" anyway.
:rommie:

And, oh, Gaith, about Harry not facing any really tough choices, but instead being forced to suffer through hardships, and then escaping them mainly through luck and plot contrivance....yep, you're absolutely right. And it's awesome. You know who else that happens to? Moses. Still a great story.
Maybe. But even if I concede your point, the dudes who wrote the Old Testament managed to tell Moses' story in what amounts to a novella. And Charlton Heston managed to fit the story into three and a half hours or so. Would you really want to watch a fifteen-hour movie about Moses, or read seven novels at a total of several thousand pages about him? Brevity, as the good Bard said, is the soul of wit. :p
 
Gaith, have you read Dan Hemmens' review of Deathly Hallows? I love it.
Egads... it's quite long... seems pretty spot-on, though. Loved this part:

JK Rowling: Look, I get it. You've got a bunch of Dumbledore backplot you want to give us. You've told us that. Just give us the plot dump, or don't give us the plot dump. I don't care at this stage. Nothing's going to be as cool as "he was Ron from the future" anyway.
:rommie:

And, oh, Gaith, about Harry not facing any really tough choices, but instead being forced to suffer through hardships, and then escaping them mainly through luck and plot contrivance....yep, you're absolutely right. And it's awesome. You know who else that happens to? Moses. Still a great story.
Maybe. But even if I concede your point, the dudes who wrote the Old Testament managed to tell Moses' story in what amounts to a novella. And Charlton Heston managed to fit the story into three and a half hours or so. Would you really want to watch a fifteen-hour movie about Moses, or read seven novels at a total of several thousand pages about him? Brevity, as the good Bard said, is the soul of wit. :p

I see what you're getting at, but your facts are wrong. The Moses story is not a novella at all - it continues through the whole 5 Books of Moses, the entire Torah, taking a break only for one and a half of the books to put forward a set of new Laws. In fact, the entire fifth book is a speech given by Moses to his people, in which he discusses, among other things, all the hardships they have suffered together. No, the Moses story is very lengthy (it takes place over 40 years, after all), and the entire time, Moses is only doing what he has been forced, by God, to do. He questions it once or twice (far fewer times than Harry Potter does), but he does it, and is never given the choice to bow out.

All of which is appropriate, since much of Harry Potter is in fact based on parts of the Moses story.

Anyway, no, there's absolutely nothing wrong with a character who is never given a choice, and is forced to simply do what must be done. Come to think of it, isn't that the Jesus story too?
 
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