Kobyashi Maru

[votd]

Smugness aside; did you like the way they played out the reprogramming of the simulator? By that I mean how the Klingon's shields failed and they were taken out with three torpedoes...which I thought was a bit crap.

The PC game Starfleet Academy has a cadet find Kirk's original code in the simulator and their explanation was that Kirk programmed the enemy captains to respect him so much that they wouldn't start a fight in the first place and just sodded off. I liked this explanation and was pretty disappointed with the lame effort on screen.

 

[Classic Fan]

Smugness aside; did you like the way they played out the reprogramming of the simulator? By that I mean how the Klingon's shields failed and they were taken out with three torpedoes...which I thought was a bit crap.

The PC game Starfleet Academy has a cadet find Kirk's original code in the simulator and their explanation was that Kirk programmed the enemy captains to respect him so much that they wouldn't start a fight in the first place and just sodded off. I liked this explanation and was pretty disappointed with the lame effort on screen.

kind of agree, and somewhat dont agree.


I wouldve prefered a more strait played version, where he still has a bit of mischeif in his eye but still plays the simulation strait until the big reveal when he beats the system.

Kinda: Sitting in his chair, they plot a course for the distress call, breach the neutral zone yadda yadda yadda ala Khan, but albeit altered for todays audience, with a slice of humour thrown in for entertainemnt value.


However, i did find this version entertaining, if not disapointingly brief. I think it was done for the pure fact that Average Joe viewer would get that he tampered with something and only he knows whats going to happen.

 

[awesomeocalypse]

I really liked the scene not knowing the way it was originally done, and now that I know, while I see how that could be cool too I think this is an interesting twist given the difference between the two Kirks--Kirk would be brilliant and heroic and brash and confident no matter what, but the presence of his father growing up curbed his worst tendencies (impossible and frequently self-destructive headstrongness, a certain tendency towards showing off, a love of a good fight), so in this new universe he approaches things a little differently. Either way he cheats to beat it, but the method alters depending on whether he knew his father--I think it works well.

 

[USS Triumphant]

That was what was used in the novel Kobayashi Maru as well, and I agree, I'd have rather seen it. Although the way it was put together in the movie was pretty funny.

 

[SmoothieX]

I think the scene was less about the Kobayashi Maru test as opposed to Kirk's exceptional abilities conflicting with his flippant attitude.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

In the other thread, most posters seemed to agree that Kirk intentionally went over the top in how he reprogrammed the simulation. He wanted to make it obvious that he cheated, so obvious that there'd be no question he messed with the program. He didn't hide the fact that he cheated. He wanted everyone to know he'd done it and why. (The why being that the test's unfairness was so obvious, then so should his cheating be.)

 

[votd]

In the other thread, most posters seemed to agree that Kirk intentionally went over the top in how he reprogrammed the simulation. He wanted to make it obvious that he cheated, so obvious that there'd be no question he messed with the program. He didn't hide the fact that he cheated. He wanted everyone to know he'd done it and why. (The why being that the test's unfairness was so obvious, then so should his cheating be.)

The test is only unbeatable within it's presented options though; the third alternative could happen, and arguably there will always be a third alternative, this exposes a flaw in the test showing Kirk's strength of thinking outside of the box; I know this Kirk is supposed to be brash, but his test scores being off the chart and all should show this kind of deviousness as opposed to blunt force.