Kitumba Script

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  1. STEPhon IT

    STEPhon IT Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    "The Tressaurian Intersection" was a film where I thought to myself, with a good budget and decent script, a fan could really do something with this. Taking the lore seriously and make compelling stories within TOS universe. Cawley's series of attempts along with Star Trek Continues was such a waste of time, effort and money.
     
  2. fireproof78

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    Not for this fan. It's often used in extremes, relying on warm fuzzies over telling an interesting story. I don't want fanwank period. It's not enjoyable anymore.
     
  3. Ryan Thomas Riddle

    Ryan Thomas Riddle Writer and occasional starship commander Premium Member

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    Fanwank in itself is not a story, and too many fan productions rely on it in place of actual narrative.
     
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  4. scotpens

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    In other words, pretty much like "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield."
     
  5. Maurice

    Maurice Fact Trekker Premium Member

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    Only less interesting.
     
  6. BillJ

    BillJ Former Democrat Premium Member

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    It can be a good thing in measured doses. It should never "be" the story. Trek has come to the point that leaning on nostalgia is really all it has left. At least in its current incarnation.
     
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  7. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    I have a copy of the script around here, I think. The Klingons were more interesting than the version we've got.
     
  8. Serveaux

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    "Battlefield" is dreadful. The implicit message was no deeper than "both oppressor and oppressed are to blame." Dafuq?
     
  9. STEPhon IT

    STEPhon IT Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Were these Klingons recurring or new characters, and were they still the bad guys in the scripts?
     
  10. Maurice

    Maurice Fact Trekker Premium Member

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    They were all new characters. I dunno if you can rally call them good or bad guys because they are operating by the rules of an alien culture, albeit the warlord is nominally the villain and the titular Kitumba the the more sympathetic one. The culture as portrayed operates a bit more like feudal Japan with a three caste system, an Emperor figurehead and the military seeking to control him.
     
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  11. dupersuper

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    Really? I loved Continues but found The Tressaurian Intersection just...fine. The bit when they randomly switched their phasers to kill after stunning the first boarder was really jarring and unexplained.
     
  12. CorporalCaptain

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    I addressed that issues years ago on another board. It actually makes perfect sense. The gist of it:

    When you're the only guard left standing in the theater defending your ship from deadly attack, you already have your prisoner for interrogation, and you're being attacked with weapons that probably don't even need a direct hit to kill or least incapacitate you, then you increase your setting to the maximum possible to give yourself your best chance of accomplishing your duties. The intruders boarded willing to kill to accomplish their mission, they did kill, and they were loose. They had to be stopped. Fuck that kid gloves bullshit.
     
  13. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Worf In the 23rd Century Premium Member

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    no
     
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  14. dupersuper

    dupersuper Commodore Commodore

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    Sorry: it strikes me as about the most un-Starfleet move I've seen outside a badmiral of the week.
     
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  15. CorporalCaptain

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    Well, that guard who died, I guess he died like a Starfleet redshirt.
     
  16. Saul

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    About 20 years ago (Gods... has it really been that long?) a member of TrekBBS called The God Thing uploaded a bunch of Phase II scripts. Kitumba was among them. Unfortunately, sharing that on a BBS board is a no no so that post didn't last long but people here on the TREK BBS did download the scripts so your best bet is finding some kind person who might send you a private message with some link to something. I have a partial piece of the Kitumba script from all those years ago. I foolishly didn't think to download everything while I had the chance and then it was too late. I will need to search for that file, and again, it's only a small part.... But hopefully someone else here has it.

    I understand the value of scripts to people and I know what people have paid to get their hands on them. I personally think it's a shame that some of this work will never see the light of day and will be forgotten and lost. If I get some rare script then I want to share it because I know people really REALLY want to read them.

    Just out of curiosity, do you have the Starfleet Academy script?
     
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  17. Maurice

    Maurice Fact Trekker Premium Member

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    See this.
     
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  18. fireproof78

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    Die like a pro. That's the Starfleet way.
     
  19. Warped9

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    One of these days I’m going to revisit Star Trek Continues. In the beginning I was quite impressed, but as it progressed I felt it drifted too much into fan service. The overall production remained admirable, but I feel they gradually lost sight of what they claimed they wanted to do early on.

    It became apparent they generally wanted to connect the dots with later productions. And that in particular really bugged me—you cannot claim to want to recreate the sense of it still being 1969 while still repeatedly referencing things no one had any idea would exist over the next ten to fifty years of the franchise which you had no idea would ever happen.

    And like many fan works they needed more objective and dispassionate script editing.

    I was largely unimpressed with New Voyages as I was with what I saw of the Phase II stories.
     
  20. Arpy

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    Oh I dunno. I think you guys are being a little too hard on these things. They’re fan productions. I don’t take them too seriously and try to sit back and enjoy the ones I’ve seen. It’s a different experience, but then so is every professional Trek series, especially the animated ones. Still some good stuff to enjoy there.
     
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